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Berksmickey
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08-24-2005, 10:43 AM
Post subject: My losing hand - Should i have done it??
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 102
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Ok, here is how i was booted out of the paradise poker $1m freeroll.
I was trying to play tight solid poker and it was working up to a point. I was letting the maniacs bust themselves on All in calls on 3, 5 unsuited and whatnot, thinking i was doing ok, but just before the hour i was getting killed on the Blinds.
I was chips weak at the table and knew i had to play a hand pretty soon, so i took a risk on this.
What do you think, should i have waited a bit longer?
Game #943711280 - Tournament FreeMillion - 75/150 No Limit Texas Hold'em -
2005/08/23-14:50:00.3 (CST)
Table "FreeMillion 56" (MTT) -- Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: muppe (1,245 in chips)
Seat 2: akkedis (3,500 in chips)
Seat 3: naatureboy (4,450 in chips)
Seat 4: Desperado007 (2,460 in chips)
Seat 5: mogrill (1,200 in chips)
Seat 6: mouch_1 (1,310 in chips)
Seat 7: cantreyn (1,035 in chips)
Seat 8: albee48 (1,325 in chips)
Seat 9: leedsfc (1,095 in chips)
Seat 10: Snake-eyes B (900 in chips)
leedsfc : Post Small Blind (75)
Snake-eyes B: Post Big Blind (150)
Dealing...
Dealt to Snake-eyes B [ 9d ]
Dealt to Snake-eyes B [ 9s ]
muppe : Fold
akkedis : Fold
naatureboy: Fold
Desperado007: Call (150)
mogrill : Fold
mouch_1 : Fold
cantreyn: Fold
albee48 : Call (150)
leedsfc : Fold
Snake-eyes B: Check
*** FLOP *** : [ Ad 2s Th ]
Snake-eyes B: Bet (150)
Desperado007: Raise (300)
albee48 : Fold
leedsfc said, "oooooooo"
Snake-eyes B: Call (150)
*** TURN *** : [ Ad 2s Th ] [ Js ]
leedsfc said, "it feels horrible dnt it no in if u lose ur basicly out"
Snake-eyes B: Check
Desperado007: Bet (450)
Snake-eyes B said, "sod it"
Snake-eyes B: Call All-in (450)
*** RIVER *** : [ Ad 2s Th Js ] [ 6s ]
leedsfc said, "unluky m8"
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: 2,025 | Board: [ Ad 2s Th Js 6s ]
muppe didn't bet (folded)
akkedis didn't bet (folded)
naatureboy didn't bet (folded)
Desperado007 bet 900, collected 2,025, net +1,125 (showed hand) [ 7s Ac ] (a
pair of aces)
mogrill didn't bet (folded)
mouch_1 didn't bet (folded)
cantreyn didn't bet (folded)
albee48 lost 150 (folded)
leedsfc lost 75 (folded)
Snake-eyes B lost 900 (showed hand) [ 9d 9s ] (a pair of nines)
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Ivory
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Straight
Join Date: Jun 2005
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if i was in the same situation i would go all in preflop or call and drop the hand when you see the overcards on the flop (i'd probably go all in preflop though)... thats the only advice i can give, i'm sure someone else can help you out more.
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Berksmickey
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 102
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i was considering it but the pot at that time was still quite small so I thought the risk outwieghed the gains. I know what your saying though
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Marry Me Cheryl!!!
Posts: 8,181
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aggression is the key here
your pretty short stacked and need either the blinds or a double up to at least see a few more orbits.
When they both call push straight over the top. If you bust out thats unfortunate but you have to take the risk here in order to survive.
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drmcboy
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DrButtInski
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 9,602
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AI all day pre flop. As played it's a check fold on that flop.
When you have 900 chips and there are 500 out there on the table, the pot is NOT small.
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Push preflop.
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Irisheyes
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: over there
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You are trying to win the hand post flop conventional style. What you need to do is all in preflop and win the blinds so you can survive another orbit looking for a better hand. 99 needs a set or undercard flop to be worth anything post flop. With this flop 99 is crap.
If you can keep 'just surviving' till you get a double up hand then your always winning. Winning the blinds is good.
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9h10h
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Definetely have to push preflop in that situation. The A 7 may or may not fold, but even if he calls you're the favorite, even though in this case he would have outdrawn you. And in the case of fold, the pot still represented a good portion of your stack.
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albanat0r
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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yeah i wouldve gone all in preflop... your M was like 3.5 or something man.. gotta do it sooner or later.. cuz youre not gonna fold pocket 9s.. might as well go all the way
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TLR
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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Push preflop
With 99 and 2 people limping you want to either pick up the blinds or reduce the field to heads up, and hope your pair of 9's held up.
There is a good chance the other two limpers have overcards and you want to reduce the danger of the overcards on the board.
If you checked fold at the flop and look for a better hand.
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Berksmickey
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 102
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thanks for all your comments guys, definately helped a lot.
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