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My 10nl Stats 17.5K hands
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Vinland
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02-05-2012, 03:24 PM
Post subject: My 10nl Stats 17.5K hands
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Full House
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I have been having some trouble at 10nl since BF....
I cashed out of my previous site where I was doing fine, started back at Pokerstars at 5nl, killed it and went to 10nl where I am basically BE over a 17K stretch.
I am very dissapointed in my redline, which was about level at 5nl but its really bad at 10nl...
I have been told a few things at another site to get me started:
1) Stealing probably too much from BTN/SB. Even though my success at it is good, when I dont take it pre I probably lose bigger pots trying to take it down with cbets and some 2x barrels.
2) Tighten up in the first 2 spots: I was advised that I could consider ditching AQ, and 22-55 UTG/UTG+1
3) I think this one is key; I can put players on decent ranges....but I dont know how to play against those ranges....
I have a hard time pinpointing what my issues are.....any help is appreciated!

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Just a hunch, but you probably double barrel boards that shouldn't be doubled barreled.
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w$wsf way too low
you play too fit or fold post. fight for pots, bluff raise cbets etc.
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classic spot where preflop stats look awesome but you aren't crushing. I mean 15-13-4 sounds just great...
more iso, more aggro from MP3 through button. Steal more from the cutoff. Don't hit autofold buttons when you're dealt a hand in blinds or co/bu. Raise cbets when villain has ace high and your range includes top set. Raise some draws. Calling flop c-bets is fine if you have a plan. But you seem to do it too often. You 3b more often from bb than you do from the button - think about this and position in hands where you see a flop, also about how weak your ranges are from say mp2-co and how you deal opening from these spots and facing a 3b from co/bu, then remember that reg villains have the same weak ranges and the same dislike of calling 3bets oop.
Good chance you call too often postflop, e.g. you probably check-call too many spots where you should check-fold, and bet-call flop check-fold turn in too many spots where you should bet-fold flop.
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Originally Posted by Vinland
1) Stealing probably too much from BTN/SB. Even though my success at it is good, when I dont take it pre I probably lose bigger pots trying to take it down with cbets and some 2x barrels.
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you are not stealing too much necessarily. If you are entering unopened pots for the same size preflop in all positions then change this. How often does a 2.5x bu steal have to work vs a 4x bu steal?
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Originally Posted by Vinland
2) Tighten up in the first 2 spots: I was advised that I could consider ditching AQ, and 22-55 UTG/UTG+1
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can definitely dump 22-55 unless they are both red on thursdays or both black on fridays. Hands suck as KQs and J9s can play well from ep, particularly if 1 - there are no difficult loose players in lp, and 2 - there are bad players in the blinds. Think on it - if you miss the flop with 33, how many outs vs villain's continuing range on T64rb, how about with KQs?
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Originally Posted by Vinland
3) I think this one is key; I can put players on decent ranges....but I dont know how to play against those ranges...
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First step is to think about how villains will play these ranges. Then act to maximise your value. If they will only call a bet with that part of their range that beats you, but will stab when checked to with their entire range, then? Sometimes this means sizing, sometimes this means action.
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Vinland
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Luck: I 2x barrel sometimes. Obv when a K or A hits I will but I also will double barrel low boards that shouldnt help villains in hopes that they may fold their 99 or TT on a 8 high board. Its def a spot I am not great at.
Micro: I've had everyone tell me that, that W$WSF is too low....thats why I try to 2x barrel more but it seems to get worse. I had started to really pay attention to the flops and I'm raising more when villain cbet me, esp if they are raising from MP and their range is a bit wider.
Daven: I dont iso much, not like I used to in 5nl. I dont find a lot of limpers it seems....steal more from the co? yeesh....sometimes thats where I feel my problem is...I raise, have my cbet called and I know I'm behind, so I have to c/f the turn
I 3bet more in the blinds b/c I will 3bet hands like 22-55, KQ and sometimes AQ whereas I feel I can call profitably on the BTN with KQ, AQ (vs a co raiser, not EP).
I 4x all early positions but I 3x the CO and I 3x on the BTn vs unknowns. If the blinds are known to fold lots to steals then I 2.5x
Your last point will take practice....
I spent a long time looking at HH and I was ok at ranges but yeah, no clue how to play against them...
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