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L0s3rAL0t
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10-19-2009, 06:07 AM
Post subject: My $2NL Strategy
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Melbourne
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Alright well this week I started playing the $2NL on Full Tilt. Anyways I've noticed some really bad (good for me) leaks I can exploit. By the way I'm still quite a noob at poker so what I'm saying might all be all wrong. Please correct me if it is.
OK well one thing I've noticed if these micro limit players is that they like calling all-ins with all with all sort of wierd and (for me) wonderful hands. So I shove with AK,AQ, and any pokcet pair above 10s almost everytime. I Reckon I get called around 70% of the time, mostly with people who overvalue suited connectors or ace-rags and such. Sometimes i get called by a legit hand but remember it's not like I'm shoving with random hands so I won't be a complete underdog to this.
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L0s3rAL0t
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Join Date: Oct 2009
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I'm comtemplating on whether or not to increase my shoving range (maybe 99,88, AJ, AT) because people are just shipping it in with nothing. I limp in with any low pocket pairs and suited connectors. Pretty normal play with those. As you can see this really relies on loose calling stations at your table (of which these micro limits or full of). If I feel too many all ins aren't being called I'll open another table (this simply won't work if you don't get called enough)
Anyway post your comments and thoughts. I'd like to know if this works in the $5 and $10NL
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jyms
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Tilting Mod
Join Date: Feb 2006
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that's great, you figured out how to beat $2NL, maybe you can retire and play full time?
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L0s3rAL0t
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Melbourne
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Lol im just trying to build my bankroll from $2 I don't plan to play in this limit permanently...
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eberetta1
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One Pair
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Cambridge Minnesota
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I'll check back next week and see if you are making any headway. What is your starting bankroll?
I lost all my cash on Full Tilt and need to win a freeroll again to get going. I've been playing 1c/2c at the omaha hi/lo tables and all I manage to do is break out even after paying the rake for almost 3 years.
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littleogre
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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jyms why are you being so rude ?
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Da GOAT
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Dublin
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ive dabbled in some 2nl recently since im not playing anymore. its a fair bit of fun, everything is so bad.
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Qminator
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Antwerp, Belgium
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I 2NL can be beaten this way. But you won't learn anything from it. It' a big leak in the higher limits. You're postflop play won't improve at all.
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Carroters
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4-of-a-Kind
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Hmm, think I'd rather roam the streets all day picking up pennies I find on the ground than play this way at 2NL all day.
How about learning to actually play some post flop poker, how to get lots of value for your strong hands (very important through microstakes) and how to adjust post flop to different player types. That way you'll be able to move up to a limit where I can't earn more an hour with my hunting the streets for pennies routine.
Start by reading the beginners digest imo.
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nonofyobiz
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Straight
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Calgary
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You prob won't even win much money like this. I'd say 20% of the time u'r all in is going to get called (NUmber came out of thin air but to me seems more realistic), so u won't be making much on your big hands, plus u'r not going to learn anything
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L0s3rAL0t
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Melbourne
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yeh that 70% i think is wrong. I think I was just on a good run of loose tables. Yesterday I tried and I didn't get called as much
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oskar
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4-of-a-Kind
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haters will hate.
Hardly anyone will need help @2NL.
Do whatever and come back once you hit a wall.
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scfc_andy15
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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I don't think this is the right way to approach 2NL, you need to try and develop some sound basic skills at these lower stakes (like I am trying to), so even if it is profitable I wouldn't do it.
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"Whether he likes it or not, a man's character is stripped bare at the poker table; if the other players read him better than he does, he has only himself to blame. Unless he is both able and prepared to see himself as others do, flaws and all, he will be a loser in cards, as in life."
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Stacks
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4-of-a-Kind
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Not to mention this strategy leads to underdeveloped postflop skills, it also does not get the massive value.
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kingnat
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Full House
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The strongly feel that the optimum strategy for 2nl is to simply nut camp. Don't attempt to disguise anything. Bet according to the strength of your hand... donkeys are just as likely to call a 1/3 size pot bet as they are a full pot size bet. Thinking that you can totally OWN people postflop @ 2nl is ridiculous, more often than not you need to show down the best hand to win. That doesn't mean you don't take a stab at a pot when you are weak... but just stated.. don't go trying to bully idiots with PSBs when 1/3-1/4 size bet will work just as well for opponents that are planning to fold.
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So you click their picture and then you get their money?
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littleogre
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by kingnat
The strongly feel that the optimum strategy for 2nl is to simply nut camp. Don't attempt to disguise anything. Bet according to the strength of your hand... donkeys are just as likely to call a 1/3 size pot bet as they are a full pot size bet. Thinking that you can totally OWN people postflop @ 2nl is ridiculous, more often than not you need to show down the best hand to win. That doesn't mean you don't take a stab at a pot when you are weak... but just stated.. don't go trying to bully idiots with PSBs when 1/3-1/4 size bet will work just as well for opponents that are planning to fold.
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No sir the way to be the alpha at 2nl is to limp from the sb versus 5 limpers. Then check the flop and when it's checked around c-raise the turn. Cause your awesome read says that the lp player who bet the turn is betting cause nobody else did and the limpers don't have shit either. Well atleast thats what a book i just read says to do. 
Actually it suggest doing those types of bluffs at medium and higher stakes. The only 2 bluffs it really suggested for micro was raising from the sb or button when first in and betting the turn when last 2 act when it's checked around on the flop and turn. One trick i've picked up is you don't need to make your bluff and your value bets uniform. You can basically make your bluffs smaller and few will notice. Another tip the book gave was when playing calling and you bet the flop and they call check the turn then bluff the river if you put them on a missed draw.
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Outlaw
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Full House
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by jyms
that's great, you figured out how to beat $2NL, maybe you can retire and play full time?
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Funny shit.
Any of us could teach our grannys to beat 2NL in 10 minutes.
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littleogre
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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I gave this op's strat a try and i guess even 2nl donks respect ep shoves. Cause every time my ep sfove got called they had aces. I don't think this is the strat for me bur i wish the op all the luck in the world.
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