Originally Posted by seren

First post here, so please be gentle...

Originally Posted by seren

At UB I did ok at the $10 limit, running around 4ptbb over 5k hands, and did well at the $25 limit, running 12ptbb/100 over around 11k hands. I know it's a small sample size, but with FTR's help (been an avid reader for yonks) I've started to try and improve my game, recognising where I got lucky and where I've actually played ok.

Originally Posted by seren

Anyone got any tips on how to play multiple tables effectively? I run PT and PAHUD. Is it a case of playing purely hand by hand against HUD stats, or is there more to it that I haven't figured out yet? I feel my biggest problem is picking up non-HUD-stat reads on players when I'm constantly jumping between tables, particularly when opps flip mediocre holdings when I'd pegged them for much stronger hands.

Originally Posted by seren

My stats at UB were something like 17/7 to 16/10 depending on level (I'm already working on hand selection and PF/post flop play), but what should I expect when multitabling? Is supernitty (ie 10/7) normal or is it possible to play a wider range profitably? Or at $10 tables should I be aiming for something like 20/15?

Any thoughts, tips, stats etc would be most helpful.

Originally Posted by Robb

ArsenalRocks (2-0 over AC Milan, last night!!)

Originally Posted by Robb

Have we ever bumped into each other there?

Originally Posted by Robb

My issue with your preflop stats is how often you limp/call. 17/7 is too passive preflop by most people's standards. I like to suggest that new players aim for raising something like 2/3's (or more!) of the hands they open. I would like, say, 15/10 or 17/12 stats

Originally Posted by Robb

So my advice is this - add one more table at a time until you're 20 tabling. And listen to everything spoonitnow says - he's a multitabling fiend.

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

Lay your dick on the mouse and say "Walla walla bing bang" eight times before every session.

You have to listen -- Robb said so.

Originally Posted by seren

My username on UB is serendip - I think we've played 40 hands at $10. You cruelly ripped 10 cents from my stack.

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

Lay your dick on the mouse and say "Walla walla bing bang" eight times before every session.

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

Lay your dick on the mouse and say "Walla walla bing bang" eight times before every session.

You have to listen -- Robb said so.

Originally Posted by deacon_bluez

You see? This is the kind of stuff Doyle will never tell you in Super System.

Originally Posted by seren

It's not working.

Maybe I'm not saying it right.

Originally Posted by Robb

BTW, I've played UB pretty consistently for a year a now, at NL2, NL10 and just recently at NL25. My username there is ArsenalRocks (2-0 over AC Milan, last night!!). Have we ever bumped into each other there?

Originally Posted by frosst

dude thats you? i was using ultimatebuddy last week to look up some fish, and one was on a 25nl table and i saw you there. I was like, hmm he must've bankrolled enough to move up. im frosst160 on there. damn ftr regs lol. robb, how do position your tables on there and your PT stat overlay?

Originally Posted by speedcake

Ive taken shots at 6 tabling the last couple of nights, and honestly its no where near the disaster I thought it would be. But 15 or 16+ ??? WTF MAN!

lol

Originally Posted by seren

First post
That's funny - I'm one of the fish you were trackin'? LoL. Good to know SOMEONE realizes how bad I suck at poker.

I'll drop back to NL10 for a few hundred hands tonight and take a screenshot of my 15-table FR setup. Probably post it here in this thread. UB only allows 9 open tables at once, so I have 8 UB tables and 7 Absolute tables running simultaneously. I have configured my HUD to work with the UB "mini" feature which I find easier than dealing with 8 "big" tables.

I multitable 15+ on a single 19" monitor, with tables cascading. I can pm my HUD layouts, if you're interested. But they're quickly going to become obselete with PT3 on the way. BTW, UB and my HUD only seem to be able to handle 8 open tables at once. So even though I can open/position 9 UB tables, it seems to exceed the tolerance of PT2/PAHUD. I can't wait for PT3!!

Originally Posted by frosst

nah, i said you just so happened to be at the table he was at when i went there. nah, ive got you down as a nit lol but yea the screenshot would be great. im doing 4 tables right now but was wondering how to fit more and still have PAHUD show my stats. thanks for the help

Originally Posted by frosst

thanks for the pic robb. are you using combined stats 1 on the hud? also did you have to mess with the placement of the numbers in the layout manager to adapt for the mini view? the first hand i had AJo. The second hand i had A5o, and was on a blind steal. So its not that I thought you were pushing me around as it was I had little to play with vs your pfr calling range. With your stats being 11/10 over 959 hands, I wasn't expecting to be facing junk. o btw, you c-bet 65% of the time...k thx lol

Originally Posted by Robb

I'm using my own reconfigured combined stats both above and below in the UB FR mini layout. The bottom three stats are VP$P/PFR/AF. The top two are Hands/FoldsCbet%. In my 6max mini-layout, I have both CallsCbet%/RaisesCbet%. Here, there's not room.

The stats are color-coded. The "Hands" turn bright blue > 100, and I have "green light" settings for all the others which mean "attack now." I also have one or two "red light" settings which mean "whoa, baby, think about this one!"

Over on Absolute, the Hands stat turns bright orange > 100, with the I CallsCbet%/RaisesCbet% configuration in the secondary stats.

About my cbetting - at NL10, yes, I cbet 65% - 70% of the time, sometimes more, but I do it all with reads on villains related to stack sizes, value of my hand (usually thin, often anorexic, but rarely nonexistant), table conditions, position, etc. I played enough hands at those two sites to have great reads on 3/4's of the table every time I sat down.

Now that I've moved up to NL25, I cbet a good bit less. I don't have as many good reads, and I'm playing fewer tables and fewer hands (and not datamining). As I get more hands on common opponents, I'm opening up slightly. But the bottom line is that I cbet a lot, and try hard to make it look like I just hit my hand. You've just got to decide when you think I'm full of shit and play back. Just like with anyone else.

Originally Posted by sarbox68

Hey Robb ... I spend most of my time at UB too, and all my new $25NL time there. Sorry is off topic, but have you figured out their new RAI$E bonus structure. I'm convinced the changes translate into me getting scrood, just can't quite prove it...

Originally Posted by sarbox68

Hey Robb ... I spend most of my time at UB too, and all my new $25NL time there. Sorry is off topic, but have you figured out their new RAI$E bonus structure. I'm convinced the changes translate into me getting scrood, just can't quite prove it...

Originally Posted by Hawkfan79

I can confirm, that the new bonus structure at UB is screwing me at 10nl. I never expected to clear it all there, but wanted to add to my winrate.

Before they made the change, I played about 9600 hands there, clearing just over $30 in bonus. Then, after the change, it took me 4000 hands to clear the first $5 chunk.

I call that screwed.