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Drublic
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04-03-2008, 09:07 AM
Post subject: Money @ the table
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First I am new to these forums and would just like to say it has helped me a great deal.
I read the stickies and couldn't find anything on this subject.
If I am sitting at a table and I win some money, say half again as much as max buy in, should I take some of that money off of the table? Will players play you different if they can see you are winning?
If I lose a few hands and say lose 10-20% of the max buy in, should I bring more money onto the table?
I'm not sure as it matters, but every little bit of info helps. I am currently playing micro stakes building my BR if that makes any difference to the answers to these questions.
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grnydrowave2
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Full House
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Welcome to FTR.
I'm not aware of any poker rooms that will allow you to take money off the table. If you're playing 10nl and below, you want to have as much money on the table as possible. The players at that level are generally very bad, so take advantage of deep stacks whenever you can.
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<SrslySirius> Hal Lubarsky, my nemesis.
<SaltLick> are you seriously losing to a blind guy
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Drublic
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Sounds good. Thank you for answering.
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TLR
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At least stars will not allow you to take money of the table, and if you leave and return to the same table within 30 minutes they will require you to sit with at least the amount you left with.
Generally you want to have the table covered
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grnydrowave2
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Full House
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We say generally because some people may advocate buying in short under certain circumstances, but this only applies to higher stakes where people actually have a pulse.
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<SrslySirius> Hal Lubarsky, my nemesis.
<SaltLick> are you seriously losing to a blind guy
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donkbee
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WELP
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PP allows you to leave the table and come back with less without waiting. Looks like you're American, though, so that wouldn't matter.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.
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Deanglow
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Just to be safe, both in making money and not being a douche, always buy in for the maximum.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
and not being a douche
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Fuck you.
My buy-in is my own fucking buisness.
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MuddyWicket
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Flush
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I would like to advise beginners to buy in to the hilt so I can earn more.
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Andrew
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Straight
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Your buyin is your business but "Going South" - ie taking money off the table - is extremely unethical to most poker players, especially the pros.
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jyms
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I don't do it, but doing anything within the rules is perfectly fine with me. Don't play where the rules are something you think are "unethical"
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Andrew
Your buyin is your business but "Going South" - ie taking money off the table - is extremely unethical to most poker players, especially the pros.
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This is sort of bullshit too, but there is tradition there and good players like it when people get outside of their comfort zone.
I only get really upset when it's unclear how much someone has on the table.
Anyway, if you ever have more money than you're comfortable playing, just leave the table (for however long you're required to) and/or find a different table/room and restart with a fresh buy-in.
It's your money, manage it as you see fit.
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Monty3038
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This almost exactly ties in with the rules for bankroll management for slot players... meaning once you win back your initial stake in the machine, it comes out and you play on the winnings... I like the concept personally when it comes to slots... on poker... well, is it really so different for me to withdraw say half my stack if they are able to go reload?
Granted, I want them to reload to ensure I make more money, but if I want to ensure that I haven't lost any money, that sounds like a good thing to me.
But I just find another table.
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d0zer
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"bankroll management for slot players"
That approach for poker is for kids who wet the bed. If you're scared to lose your winnings, or want to ensure that you're not going to lose anything, then you're probably playing scared and non-optimally.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by d0zer
That approach for poker is for kids who wet the bed. If you're scared to lose your winnings, or want to ensure that you're not going to lose anything, then you're probably playing scared and non-optimally.
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In live play it's not difficult to get over your head and certainly more honest to know when you're there and leave before you start playing scared money.
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d0zer
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Originally Posted by Fnord
In live play it's not difficult to get over your head and certainly more honest to know when you're there and leave before you start playing scared money.
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I could see that when you get too deep with other deepstacks on the table I guess.
I'd still like to re-iterate my meathead macho posturing, just for fun 
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ProZachNation
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I personally if say my BR is only 20X buyins will leave the table if I double up. But once my BR gets deeper in relation to the blinds I generally will leave it on.
Do what makes you most comfortable.
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bode
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nobody really answered the other 1/2 of your question about bringing more money to the table if you lose some. Its probably best to keep a full stack and keep the table covered, but at what point you want to top up is up to you. im really anal about it and reload to a full stack every time i go through the blinds, but i would definitly reload atleast if you drop 10% of your stack.
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
and not being a douche
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Fuck you.
My buy-in is my own fucking buisness. |
This is probably the best response to a 'shortstackers suck' post that I've read. I might quote it, frequently.
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Jack Sawyer
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Going south, aka ratholing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_poker_terms#G
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