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allabout
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01-16-2008, 11:27 PM
Post subject: Missed value on set?
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Flush
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Hi, I played this hand today and want to see if others think I missed value by not raising. Feel like I may have played a little passive but at the time I just felt like I would be raising into a hand that beats me.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($9.70)
UTG ($11.20)
UTG+1 ($0.65)
MP1 ($4.15)
MP2 ($9.40)
MP3 ($1.75)
CO ($3.80)
Hero ($10.25)
SB ($0.95)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 4 , 4 . MP2 posts a blind of $0.10. MP3 posts a blind of $0.15.
UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 (poster) checks, MP3 (poster) checks, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold, BB checks.
Flop: ($0.70) 5 , 4 , T (6 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.5, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $1.1, BB folds, UTG calls $0.60.
Turn: ($2.90) 2 (2 players)
UTG bets $1, Hero calls $1.
River: ($4.90) 8 (2 players)
UTG bets $1.5, Hero calls $1.50.
Final Pot: $7.90
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Pythonic
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Raise turn to $2.75 then River to $4.75. Looks like he has A10s or K10s to me
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4-of-a-Kind
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Raise flop to 2, as played raise turn to 4, as played shove river.
Yes, you missed value.
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daven
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01-17-2008, 08:10 AM
Post subject: Re: Missed value on set?
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Originally Posted by allabout
Hi, I played this hand today and want to see if others think I missed value by not raising.
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raise pre-flop
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spoonitnow
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01-17-2008, 10:57 AM
Post subject: Re: Missed value on set?
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by daven
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Originally Posted by allabout
Hi, I played this hand today and want to see if others think I missed value by not raising.
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raise pre-flop
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I disagree. The point of raising here would be to end up in a post-flop situation where we have the initiative and position on one or two players at the most. Against one or two limpers this would probably be fine, but here with four in before we're to act, it's probably best to just limp along, especially at 10nl where we're more likely to get more callers preflop, and where players are more likely to pay off big hands in limped pots.
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kmind
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Agree with spoon that we should limp behind. Also agree with Badger's raise sizing. And yeah, I'd say you missed a lot of value.
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allabout
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Yes, sometimes I will raise any pocket pair preflop but I like to mix it up especially as spoon said with a lot of limpers in front. Better chance I feel of someone else hitting a nice 2nd best hand. Ya I thought I played this pretty weak. Don't really know why, usually I'm over aggressive. Anyway, guy had 45 so I woulda probably got his whole stack. Thanks.
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