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DLC11

07-24-2006, 02:53 PM Post subject: Missed flush, but is this still worth a call?

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Or should I dump this facing a re-raise on the turn?

PokerStars Game #5664839671: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/07/24 - 10:34:52 (ET)
Table 'Phocaea' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Scarecr0w ($47.80 in chips)
Seat 2: uven76 ($53.55 in chips)
Seat 3: BeatPurdue ($50.75 in chips)
Seat 4: AmQuilts ($60.15 in chips)
Seat 5: DaoMonk ($14 in chips)
Seat 7: chivir ($3.45 in chips)
Seat 8: JACHEM ($36.55 in chips)
Seat 9: Gunnar69 ($34.50 in chips)
Gunnar69: posts small blind $0.25
Scarecr0w: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BeatPurdue [Qs As]
uven76: folds
BeatPurdue: raises $1.50 to $2
AmQuilts: folds
DaoMonk: folds
chivir: folds
JACHEM: calls $2
Gunnar69: calls $1.75
Scarecr0w: folds
*** FLOP *** [8s Tc Js]
Gunnar69: bets $3
BeatPurdue: calls $3
JACHEM: calls $3
*** TURN *** [8s Tc Js] [Ad]
Gunnar69: checks
BeatPurdue: bets $8
JACHEM: raises $8 to $16
Gunnar69: folds
BeatPurdue: calls $8
*** RIVER *** [8s Tc Js Ad] [2d]
BeatPurdue: checks
JACHEM: bets $10
BeatPurdue: ???

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DLC11

07-24-2006, 03:02 PM

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Ooops. Sorry guys. Meant to post this in the hand histories section.

My bad.

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07-24-2006, 06:14 PM

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The pot is $57, your call is $10... so basically you have to be winning 1/5.7th of the time.

The problem however is that you are only beating A9 or worse. A9 though, is the only possible hand that I could see making this play. You opponent probably doesn't have A9 1/6th of the time.

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07-24-2006, 10:48 PM

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5 to 1 odds seems to big to lay this down. I see some possibilities of you winning.

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07-25-2006, 05:33 AM

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you're winning if he's bluffing.

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07-26-2006, 02:02 AM

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call the turn by all means but you beat shit on the river despite getting odds to call.

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07-26-2006, 05:31 AM

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i probably raise the flop and maybe push the turn

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07-26-2006, 07:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DLC11

Or should I dump this facing a re-raise on the turn?

I think you are beat on the turn. Preflop the button might be calling a little loose because of position, but than he flat calls the flop with two other players in the pot and than raises you on the turn with the flop bettor still to act behind him. He has half his stack in by the turn and looks like he is trying to get the other half in on the river. I would probably put him on a flopped straight, flopped trips, or two pair by the turn.

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07-26-2006, 10:07 AM

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Get as much money in as you can on the flop, turn plays a lot differntly

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07-27-2006, 03:00 AM

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Is this going a little overboard?

POKERSTARS GAME #5693695928: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/07/26 - 21:40:23 (ET)
Table 'Una' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: MSB GRINDER ($31.20 in chips)
Seat 2: tigger105 ($12.75 in chips)
Seat 3: mymac44 ($41.25 in chips)
Seat 4: mikey737 ($109.30 in chips)
Seat 5: Breeze099 ($55.75 in chips)
Seat 6: highamps ($40.90 in chips)
Seat 7: Boulaya ($44.25 in chips)
Seat 8: BeatPurdue ($71.60 in chips)
Seat 9: ringoringo ($56.10 in chips)
Boulaya: posts small blind $0.25
BeatPurdue: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BeatPurdue [Qs As]
ringoringo: folds
MSB GRINDER: folds
MSB GRINDER is sitting out
tigger105: folds
mymac44: folds
mikey737: folds
Breeze099: folds
highamps: calls $0.50
Boulaya: folds
BeatPurdue: raises $1.50 to $2
highamps: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [Ts Js Jc]
BeatPurdue: bets $3
highamps: raises $5 to $8
BeatPurdue: raises $61.60 to $69.60 and is all-in
MSB GRINDER has returned

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07-27-2006, 03:42 AM

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^^^^
I don't think so... he's only calling with AA KK maybe QQ or a J. Lot's of outs, just fine.

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07-27-2006, 04:19 AM

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Yeah he's definitely not calling with TT or TJ either.

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07-27-2006, 04:19 AM

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Even if he does have JJ you still have an out.

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07-27-2006, 08:53 AM

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For the first hand I would put JACHEM on the straight and Gunnar69 on two pair. However, I am a fish.

Please feel free to explain why I am wrong.

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07-27-2006, 09:27 AM

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the second ones a bit different with the paired board. I'd try and draw as cheaply as possible

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07-27-2006, 12:13 PM

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in the first hand, i 3-bet AI with my top pair + gutshot + flushdraw facing a minraise.

On the 2nd hand, you could raise to 25 bucks and have the same effect but AI is just as cool.

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