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02-25-2005, 03:21 PM
Post subject: Misplayed AA preflop....
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Full House
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Wastin' away again in margaritaville....
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Homegame last night...
I'm in late position with AA sitting on a 6-7x buyin stack.
Tight guy (2nd best player in my hg, only other consistent winner) with a decent stack of 4-5 buyins in early position raises to 3xBB, one caller and then the tilting semi-drunk guy to my right decides to push with about a half buyin stack.
Now I don't want that guys puny stack in the middle, I want tighty's...
1) do you call and hope for an overcall by tighty, then push the flop
2) do you push hoping he thinks you are trying to isolate the maniac and call you
3) do you min raise with the same aim as #2
- sed
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72bluffer
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When you say 3x raise is that 3xBB or 3x the buyin?
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Tenny
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I'd push and hope that he thinks you are trying to isolate yourself with the drunk tilter.
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-It seemed like a good idea at the time-
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by cmg_poker2
When you say 3x raise is that 3xBB or 3x the buyin?
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3xBB raise
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UG
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I wouldn't just call. If you call and he's able to flop something huge, your AA will get killed and you'll be dead.
I'd either push AI, or at least throw a decent amount of my stack on the table and hope that he pushes behind you.
With AA you want to get all of your chips in preflop. Better to push and possibly win a small/average pot than to not push and possibly lose your whole stack.
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r8ed
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4-of-a-Kind
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3.
If he reraises your minraise (thinking you are trying to isolate) then go AI. Better than 2. because you get more money out of him if he called the minraise and then folds to your AI on the flop. Problem is if he calls, then hits the flop.
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72bluffer
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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I would raise, maybe double the drunks all in. If he is a tight play he might got go for the all in unless he has a high PP.
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"When you're rich, you don't write checks. Straight cash, homey."
"Just call me Frito-Lay, cuz I gots all da chips baby!!!"
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Sed
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Ultimate George
I wouldn't just call. If you call and he's able to flop something huge, your AA will get killed and you'll be dead.
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I think a min-raise is the right move here against most players, but I do not think it would have been called by tighty unless he had been hitting the bottle a little too hard OR had KK. He's a reasonably smart player who knows I don't raise a 30XBB bet without a damn good hand and probably would smell a trap.
I wanted his money in there, and think the only way to get it in would have been to flat call hopeing that he pushed or push making him think I was trying to get him out of the pot so I can take the semi-drunk guy's money.
I opted to push, unfortunately it was an uncoordinated drunk chimp-like push where I did it too quickly and dumped my chips all over the place. Gotta remember to count to 15 next time.....
- sed
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