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08-21-2010, 11:36 AM
Post subject: Middle PPs problem
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One Pair
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 18
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Hi everyone, I'm new to this site and fairly new to poker.
I've done much reading here and am trying to reduce my fishyness by taking note of all the info available.
I am now trying the next step of posting hands. This hand is typical of the ones where I get lost.
Villain's stats are 17 / 14 over just 14 hands, no 3bet. He probly sees me as similar.
When he calls my raise I put him on 22-JJ, AQo+,ATs+; maybe some SCs.
After he bets the flop my feeling is I have no choice but to fold or raise.
If he re-raises it's fold or all-in, and all I really have is a middling PP.
If I call and he bets the turn (assuming no set) I have the same problem.
Any advice here would be very welcome.Thanks.
$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Stacks:
UTG ($5.60)
UTG+1 ($4.11)
CO ($6.90)
Hero ($4.52)
SB ($4.28)
BB ($1.92)
Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 6 players) Hero is BTN 
UTG calls $0.04, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, SB calls $0.18, BB calls $0.16, UTG calls $0.16
Flop: ($0.80, 4 players)
SB bets $0.57, 2 folds, Hero ???
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iLike
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Two Pair
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 47
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I'm pretty new to poker myself too, so please don't take my thoughts on this hand too serious. He calls your preflop raise, so I'd give him pocket pairs from 66-TT and some suited connectors like 76s or better. I think he would have reraised with JJ+, AQ+ and he would have folded 22-55. Considering this, chances are that he has two pair, a set, some flushdraw or even a full house. If he has two pair, you beat everything expect TT. If he has a set, all you have are are two ouths for the other nines, same goes if he has a full house. I don't think that he would bet this large with a flushdraw against 3 opponents.
With that said, I think you are behind almost everytime. To me it's a pretty clear fold.
I hope you understand what I'm trying to say, since I'm not a native English speaker.
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Pelion
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iLike
I think he would have reraised with JJ+, AQ+ and he would have folded 22-55.
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Don't be too quick to project your own tendencies onto other players, especially when they are players we've only seen for 14 hands. About the most specific we can get about him so far is he's probably not wildly loose.
@ OP His bet (and probably not a wildly loose one) into 3 other players, one of whom raised preflop, on a board that hits (made hand or draw) a lot of the hands people are likely to call preflop is telling you something. What is it?
Why can you only fold or raise? What is the risk if you call? How does that compare to raising? What is the value in raising, and what is the value in calling?
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