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04-23-2009, 03:08 PM
Post subject: Microstakes w/ and w/o a HUD...
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Full House
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I have found that I rely on my HUD way more than I actually should. Instead of making notes on not only what a player does wrong, but what kind of player they are I figure "my HUD will take care of that."
I don't play poker anymore. I rely on my HUD to make the reads for me, and I rarely put a player on a range. It is sad that I feel like I am a worse poker player 2 months later than I was when I started playing again in February.
I am thinking about experimenting with no HUD for the next few days and seeing how that goes. Anyone ever try that?
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Lucothefish
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2009
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I play at $20nl and I've never used a HUD. Actually I've always had a sneaking suspicion that it could do more harm than good at this early stage in my poker career...
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<@d0zer> how will you learn if I don't berate you harshly?
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Stacks
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Have you thought to play with a HUD, but quit autopiloting, and start taking notes? Kinda the best of both worlds, and the added information is what you need in poker.
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sil693
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Full House
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Birmingham, UK
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the HUD stats are no replacement for reads / ranges and its not even close. basically, what stacks said, just do both.
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CBAT
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Full House
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Yeah, I think I'll be cutting down to 8 tables and stopping my auto-piloting. Cruise Control doesn't always work.
Maybe I'll keep the HUD =D
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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drop the HUD, not close, learn to play poker
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CBAT
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Full House
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
drop the HUD, not close, learn to play poker
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not close?
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settecba
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Flush
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id say no HUD and fewer tables for a while(like 4). Take notes, pay attention, make some good reads, and once thats a habit go back to the HUD slowly adding more tables.
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Originally Posted by ISF
Getting good at poker is like that scene in the matrix where Neo suddenly sees that everyone is just a bunch of structured numbers and then he starts bending those numbers in really weird ways.
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play like 2-3 tables in 6m or 4 tables in FR or 1 table HU
have extensive notes on EVERYONE
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Stacks
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4-of-a-Kind
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Playing without a HUD is fine. Playing with a HUD is fine. It's whatever. However, I don't see why people wouldn't use a HUD. Poker is a game of making decisions based on limited information. It stands to reason that the more information you have the better decision you can make. If you learn not to rely on only your HUD, and still make notes, and pick up on tendencies, etc, then I don't see why you wouldn't also use a HUD.
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bjsaust
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Straight Flush
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I use a HUD even with limitted tables running, but mainly because I use HEM notes rather than pokersite ones as I love the popup nature of them.
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Just playing to improve.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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playing with a HUD is not "fine" it's a pretty shitty crutch that has led to a ton of ppl who move up stakes and cannot beat REALLY easy games like 10nl, 25nl, etc...
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daven
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
playing with a HUD is not "fine" it's a pretty shitty crutch that has led to a ton of ppl who move up stakes and cannot beat REALLY easy games like 10nl, 25nl, etc...
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thoughts on playing low numbers of tables while running hud and having time to really understand what those numbers mean?
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Micro2Macro
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Originally Posted by daven
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
playing with a HUD is not "fine" it's a pretty shitty crutch that has led to a ton of ppl who move up stakes and cannot beat REALLY easy games like 10nl, 25nl, etc...
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thoughts on playing low numbers of tables while running hud and having time to really understand what those numbers mean? |
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by daven
thoughts on playing low numbers of tables while running hud and having time to really understand what those numbers mean?
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if I'm against using a HUD my thoughts on this should be pretty obvious
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Stacks
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4-of-a-Kind
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Spenda had a rough time in math class as a child.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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actually I was quite exceptional in math growing up and had big problems with literature, I've still never read a book from cover-to-cover.
stacks had problems in IManswering class in grade school
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Lucothefish
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Full House
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<@d0zer> how will you learn if I don't berate you harshly?
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