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grunnymoney
Old 12-06-2004, 12:09 AM     Post subject: maniac UTG, huge raise #1 (permalink)  

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Hi everybody.

$25 max, .10/.25 blinds at UB

In my first hand at the table, I'm in the big blind with QQ.

UTG, a complete maniac with about $11 bucks left, raises the bb to $5.00.

Everyone folds around to me. What would you have done?
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Old 12-06-2004, 12:11 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 12-06-2004, 12:11 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Push, he's a maniac. He's got 11 bucks and is gonna call the next 6. If he has AA or KK then you're done, but there are a lot of hands he'd be raising with and you're still the favorite. Not to expensive to take it all the way.

Besides, if you call and he does have AA or KK, you'll be AI on a flop of all unders and flat calling will give you a chance to fold to an ace or king high flop when you might still have the best hand.

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Old 12-06-2004, 12:17 AM #4 (permalink)  
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As I've learned the hardway UTG doesn't lead out like that without some sort of legit hand. That being said since it's just you and him and you have an actual hand yourself QQ's worsse case senario your dominated best case senario you are favorite. Push that mo fo. If he does win at least you know he's a maniac so with some legit hands you should have no problem getting your $$$ back.
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Old 12-06-2004, 02:19 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Even maniacs get AA/KK. But if he's a true maniac then you've gotta push.

Lemme guess result, you lost.
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Old 12-06-2004, 02:43 AM #7 (permalink)  
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With that read, I would seriously consider pushing TT/AQ
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Old 12-06-2004, 03:48 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Like everyone else has told you...PUSH. You seemed to have had a pretty nice read on him, so in this scenario im pushing...all day long


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Old 12-06-2004, 05:14 AM #9 (permalink)  

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Well like everyone else here would have done I did push. The thing that made me think about it was that his bet was so big that it was almost like he wanted someone to not believe him and put him all in with his AA/KK. Ended up alright though. And this dude IS nuts, check out the hand at the bottom, came about 5 hands later.


TINCH1 is at seat 0 with $10.95.
Anna-Lena is at seat 1 with $21.30.
drippinDodger is at seat 2 with $22.55.
2MuchBLING is at seat 4 with $10.70.
bigdaddy1951 is at seat 5 with $6.90.
GEORGE5380 is at seat 6 with $14.
grunnymoney is at seat 7 with $15.
Cantrell is at seat 8 with $10.90.
The button is at seat 5.

GEORGE5380 posts the small blind of $.10.
grunnymoney posts the big blind of $.25.

TINCH1: -- --
Anna-Lena: -- --
drippinDodger: -- --
2MuchBLING: -- --
bigdaddy1951: -- --
GEORGE5380: -- --
grunnymoney: Qd Qs
Cantrell: -- --

Pre-flop:

Cantrell folds. TINCH1 raises to $5. Anna-Lena
folds. drippinDodger folds. 2MuchBLING folds.
bigdaddy1951 folds. GEORGE5380 folds. grunnymoney
goes all-in for $15. TINCH1 goes all-in for $10.95.
grunnymoney is returned $4.05 (uncalled).

Flop (board: 2h Qc 4s):

(no action in this round)

Turn (board: 2h Qc 4s 8c):

(no action in this round)

River (board: 2h Qc 4s 8c 9d):

(no action in this round)

Showdown:

grunnymoney shows Qd Qs.
grunnymoney has Qd Qs Qc 8c 9d: three queens.
TINCH1 shows Ac Ks.
TINCH1 has Ac Ks Qc 8c 9d: ace high.


Hand #3452961-3639 Summary:

$1 is raked from a pot of $22.
grunnymoney wins $21 with three queens.


TINCH1 is at seat 0 with $8.25.
Anna-Lena is at seat 1 with $39.15.
drippinDodger is at seat 2 with $22.55 (sitting out).
jbassa31 is at seat 3 with $6.60.
2MuchBLING is at seat 4 with $10.45.
bigdaddy1951 is at seat 5 with $4.80.
GEORGE5380 is at seat 6 with $14.45.
grunnymoney is at seat 7 with $26.75.
Cantrell is at seat 8 with $10.55.
Kotaman is at seat 9 with $24.65.
The button is at seat 1.

jbassa31 posts the small blind of $.10.
2MuchBLING posts the big blind of $.25.

TINCH1: -- --
Anna-Lena: -- --
jbassa31: -- --
2MuchBLING: -- --
bigdaddy1951: -- --
GEORGE5380: -- --
grunnymoney: Ks Kd
Cantrell: -- --
Kotaman: -- --

Pre-flop:

bigdaddy1951 calls. GEORGE5380 folds. grunnymoney
raises to $1.50. Cantrell folds. Kotaman folds.
TINCH1 goes all-in for $8.25. Anna-Lena folds.
jbassa31 folds. 2MuchBLING folds. bigdaddy1951
folds. grunnymoney calls.

Flop (board: 4s Td 7s):

(no action in this round)

Turn (board: 4s Td 7s 4c):

(no action in this round)

River (board: 4s Td 7s 4c 5c):

(no action in this round)

Showdown:

TINCH1 shows Qs Ts.
TINCH1 has Qs Ts 4s Td 4c: two pair, tens and fours.
grunnymoney shows Ks Kd.
grunnymoney has Ks Kd 4s Td 4c: two pair, kings and fours.


Hand #3452961-3644 Summary:

$.85 is raked from a pot of $17.10.
grunnymoney wins $16.25 with two pair, kings and fours.
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Old 12-06-2004, 05:35 PM #10 (permalink)  
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1st hand great call and an even better flop for you.

2nd hand OMG I'm shocked that UB didn't throw up the flush for the maniac Other than that there's no way your laying down the cowboys so it's good call and great read on that dude.
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Old 12-06-2004, 05:41 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Just curious. If this was your first hand at the table, how did you know that UTG was a complete maniac? Did you observe the table for a while or did you just base your assertion of him being a maniac on the fact that he raised pre-flop to $5?

In any event, you needed to do exactly what you did do..... push.
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Old 12-06-2004, 07:09 PM #12 (permalink)  

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I've played with him at the $25 max tables before....his strategy is "play-money"-like. One hand he spent his entire stack (over $20 bucks) on an obvious flush draw and hit it, the guy he was going against was doing everything he could to push him out but he kept chasing. Each time he gets busted out he just reloads another 25 bucks and gives that away too, gotta love it.
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Old 12-06-2004, 08:48 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Yo grunny what's his name so I can put it on my Ultimate Buddy List Oh wait forget it I'm a dumbass I see it...muhhahahahahahaha
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