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Elexshun
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11-07-2006, 03:06 AM
Post subject: Make yo money foo
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Da planet Earf
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In the last couple weeks I have begun to get serious about playing online poker for a living. These are my recent discoveries. What are yours ?
1. Don't raise 9's 10's or J's from early position (full ring)
2. Raising on the button with A5 etc is great. Raising 1 or 2 before the button with A5 is not so great.
3. Make it a habit to steal unwanted pots. Find clever ways to steal them, don't be afraid to make a raise if you think someone else is stealing them(especially if you have outs)
4. Once you get a little respect at the table, pots become a hell of a lot easier to steal.
5. Don't call those small bets designed to squeeze a few more chips out of you.
6. When in doubt fold, bad top pairs are an excellent place to fold. So are middle pair if you don't have some draws working.
7. People fold a lot more than you would think to well designed raises. Especially if you have respect equity.
8. Buy poker tracker
(hope this dosn't seem condescending if it does kiss my a**)
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martindcx1e
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4-of-a-Kind
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1. Why?
9. Don't call big river bets w/o the nuts/near nuts/good read.
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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.
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XTR1000
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: May 2006
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1. raise any pp from any position. record "flop it or drop it" on a tape and push play everytime you enter a pot with less than TT
2. call stupid river bluffs
3. once your steals work no more tighten up. don´t try to push ppl out of pots, when your lagging around for hours.
4. don´t make stupid calls w/ Q high, just b/c that maniac is pushing you around. wait for cards to do so.
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bode
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Straight Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Location: slow motion
Posts: 4,270
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raise all pp's from all positions.
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eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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JB25163
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: NY
Posts: 62
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Don't get impatient.
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Rondavu
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by Bode-ist
raise all pp's from all positions.
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This will get you in trouble. I think one should be capable of raising all pp's from all positions. I don't think it's a good idea to always do it. Small pocket pairs actually do play very well in multi way pots. First priority is to get a multiway pot. Second priority is raising first in from mid position or later to attempt a math victory.
I actually can't remember the last time I raised 22-66 from EP. That's probably bad because I should do it once in a while, but it does demonstrate the way I feel about this range of hands.
If you don't see why routinely raising 22-66 from EP against a table of tough opponents is bad, then WTF mang? The wider your raising range, the more your opponents can use position like a hammer after the flop, since a lot more flops on average will scare you. It doesn't take long for an observant opponent to turn that overaggression into spew.
Can you imagine playing against 7 Gus Hansons at a table and you start raising every pocket pair from every position? Geezus you'd be toast.
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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pgil
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Full House
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Originally Posted by XTR1000
1. raise any pp from any position. record "flop it or drop it" on a tape and push play everytime you enter a pot with less than TT
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that's pretty weak-tight advice to be giving someone. 88,99 can be good overpair (or 2nd pair) hands. if you are raising all PP's from all positions, then check-folding when your 55 doesn't set, that seems like a huge leak.
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"If you can't say f*ck, you can't say f*ck the government" - Lenny Bruce
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flyingPenguin
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Straight
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 193
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Raise all pps from all positions in a tight game, with designs to take blinds or flop with a c-bet. Reduce your range in a loose game.
I.e if it works, do it. If it doesn't, don't.
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nutsinho
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
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quit poker if you arent raising JJ from anywhere
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My bankroll is the amount of money I would spend or lose before I got a job. It is calculated by adding my net worth to whatever I can borrow.
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martindcx1e
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2005
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quit poker if you arent raising JJ from anywhere
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word to your motha
Penguin's right about raising all pp's from all positions. I just stoppped doing it in EP/MP at the Ongame 25NL b/c it rarely took the pot down, rarely resulted in a HU pot, and b/c of that cbets rarely worked. I still did it from LP so I could get a free turn card usually.
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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.
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Renton
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA
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Originally Posted by Rondavu
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Originally Posted by Bode-ist
raise all pp's from all positions.
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This will get you in trouble. I think one should be capable of raising all pp's from all positions. I don't think it's a good idea to always do it. Small pocket pairs actually do play very well in multi way pots. First priority is to get a multiway pot. |
If you play 10000 hands where you raise 66 from early position and get a caller from a random player in late position, and go heads-up to flop of three random cards, you will make a lot more money than if you played 10000 corresponding hands where you open limped 66 from early position. Thats just my opinion, and its probably not possible to prove it.
Sure, pairs do better in multiway pots, but they do much better in RAISED pots, whether they be heads up or multiway. In a limped pot, if you get all in with a small set, you are very often going to be behind or your villain is going to be drawing very live. In a raised pot, you will usually have them drawing almost dead.
Also, its almost impossible to play a pocket pair unimproved in a multiway unraised pot, but they are very playable in a heads up raised pot.
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Ash256
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: UK
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AT/AJ are spewage in raised pots.
KQ is not as good as it says on the tin.
Suited aces aren't as good as they say on the tin.
You don't stack someone every single time you hit a set.
When you think you have 6 outs with your middle pair, you very often don't.
2 tables of strong read 6max makes more money than 8 tables of readless.
If I was looking, that seemingly good TAGG player just showed Q3s.
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benny999
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2005
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can't believe no one mentioned game/table/seat selection yet.
just as big of a deal as anything else imo.
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The Izebox
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: bronx new york
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1. When the solid regular who you have played 10,000 hands with sits with position on you, LEAVE.
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Me? I always tell the truth.
Even when I lie.
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takesix
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Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 323
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A guy who minraises your river value bet probably has you beat.
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Ship It
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martindcx1e
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,614
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- Pair + Flush Draw is NOT a license to print money
- Don't regularly call off 10% of your 100BB stack preflop with small pairs
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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.
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dpe8598
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Flush
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 261
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Originally Posted by izybx
1. When the solid regular who you have played 10,000 hands with sits with position on you, LEAVE.
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GENIUS!
Although I will add that if its a sweet table, stay, but stay out of pots w/ regular that knows you.
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Marry Me Cheryl!!!
Posts: 8,181
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Lets rewrite number 1.
1. Get rakeback. If you cant, play at a site where its available.
The rest is standard 
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Halv
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pro crastinator
4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: No hindsight for the blind.
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Lets rewrite number 2.
2. Play against fish.
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