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eugmac
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04-02-2007, 12:09 PM
Post subject: Loose casino games. How to play AK?
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I've been playing a few sessions at a casino here in Manchester, and after 3 4-6 hour sessions I'm just breaking even with the session charges. (5 pounds/hr with dealer, 3 pounds/hr if self-dealt)
They do pot limit 1-1 blind games, straddling allowed in all positions, as are re-straddles.
I had AK twice yesterday, once in EP once in the CO, but both times my pot raise got called by 3-5 people regardless. EP raises, because they're so much smaller, especially tend to get called by everybody.
The time I raised in the CO, I got about 4 callers, including the button. Flop comes Q x x hearts, and I had the Kh. It's checked to me, should I check here?
Basically I'm feeling like I can only continue with AK if the flop hits me, because this table calls with anything.
What I ended up doing in that hand is betting the flop, button pushes for 7 more, everybody folds to me, I call with my flush draw, and it turned out my overcard outs were good too when he showed down 88 to take the pot.  (which actually made me a very slight favourite.)
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SteveO
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Pot-limit is more of a post flop game to begin with. Play AK like normal and raise it. If you don't improve on flop you are not going any further with the hand and fold.
To beat the cheap and loose casino there are a couple things you can do:
Play really tight in EP.
Open up your range and play Axs, sooted connectors and all pocket pairs looking for big flops.
Don't get too attached to something like top pair when you are playing 5 opponents.
Don't bluff. Semi-bluff is ok if you are drawing to the nuts against loose folks you want to build a bigger pot to make up for those times you missed.
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Send lawyers, guns and money - the sh*t has hit the fan!
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andy609
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Originally Posted by SteveO
To beat the cheap and loose casino there are a couple things you can do:
Play really tight in EP.
Open up your range and play Axs, sooted connectors and all pocket pairs looking for big flops.
Don't get too attached to something like top pair when you are playing 5 opponents.
Don't bluff. Semi-bluff is ok if you are drawing to the nuts against loose folks you want to build a bigger pot to make up for those times you missed.
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If this strategy works at 1/2 NL at Foxwoods, I might have to give you a piece of my action. If you want to know what schooling is, try that game.
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Fnord
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How deep is the money?
Also, I would seriously consider straddling your button every time.
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eugmac
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People sit down with anything they want, no max buyin. I sit with 100bb, but often like, over half the people are short, under 50bb. As the night progresses though, as these donks start winning some crazy hands with 9-2o (saw the deuce of that hand take down a big pot with a flush), they often are sitting there with well over 200bb.
I do straddle the button once in a while, but because re-straddles are allowed I have to do it when somebody's not going 4bb habitually, which is just about the most annoying thing in the world. I announce, "2 blind on the button...", then the same donk as always shouts "4 BLIND!", from somewhere in EP. sigh...
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zook
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Originally Posted by eugmac
I do straddle the button once in a while, but because re-straddles are allowed I have to do it when somebody's not going 4bb habitually, which is just about the most annoying thing in the world. I announce, "2 blind on the button...", then the same donk as always shouts "4 BLIND!", from somewhere in EP. sigh...
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That's a good thing.
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eugmac
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When somebody restraddles after I've straddled the button, how wide a range should I be completing with?
How much of my stack should I be willing to commit PF if I'm on the button and I'm dealt a good implied odds hand (SCs, Axs, Small PP)?
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Vrax
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Originally Posted by eugmac
When somebody restraddles after I've straddled the button, how wide a range should I be completing with?
How much of my stack should I be willing to commit PF if I'm on the button and I'm dealt a good implied odds hand (SCs, Axs, Small PP)?
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Here's an article that may help you in making proper PF decision when you get some funky hand in LP in somehow juicy pot.
http://www.parttimepoker.com/poker-s...eflopcalls.htm
Limp away 
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"How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
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DonkDonk
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Your overs don't make u a favorite to 88. If your getting called to much RAISE MORE.
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The flop, turn and river can change everything. It is important to remain objective and remember that the overall goal is to win, not win this specific hand
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SteveO
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It's pot limit the best he can do is bet the pot.
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Send lawyers, guns and money - the sh*t has hit the fan!
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