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mbiz
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01-17-2010, 01:53 AM
Post subject: looking for some 10nl tips
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Straight
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Orstraya
Posts: 178
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Ive only played 1000 hands of weekend FR 10nl, but have noticed a big difference from 5nl.
More nits running 15/15 - 10/10 or thereabouts
lots of 20bb SS'ers who are shoving ~13% pre
Is there any other differences? Can anyone offer me advice on how to approach this?
I stove my hand vs the SSer shoving range when deciding on calling or not. I steal a few blinds. So far its pretty flatline though.
thanks in advance
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chatzilla
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Exact same thoughts as you. It's really odd how you go from 5nl everyone is 200bb deep then get to 10nl everyone is the opposite 50bb or even 25bb shortstackers everywhere I read this thread last night It seems to ease the pain of my failz haha
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...nl-t83966.html
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Outlaw
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01-17-2010, 02:43 AM
Post subject: Re: looking for some 10nl tips
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Full House
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Originally Posted by mbiz
Ive only played 1000 hands of weekend FR 10nl, but have noticed a big difference from 5nl.
More nits running 15/15 - 10/10 or thereabouts
lots of 20bb SS'ers who are shoving ~13% pre
Is there any other differences? Can anyone offer me advice on how to approach this?
I stove my hand vs the SSer shoving range when deciding on calling or not. I steal a few blinds. So far its pretty flatline though.
thanks in advance
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Nits who run 15/15? lol
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Robb
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,072
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My advice: TAGG pokerz and learn to play with precision postflop. Should be ++EV even w/ ss'rs and "nits."
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mbiz
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Straight
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Orstraya
Posts: 178
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haha yeah i thought twice about my nit comment but cbf rewording. they still seem to fold to my raise a lot
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dranger7070
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Wake up in the mornin feelin' like P. Diddy
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play the same game, just steal blinds vs the nits, iso the fish ez game
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Hoopy
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Riverballs
Posts: 777
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Table select a bit more and leave tables when the average VPIP is <20% unless there is a big fish still there. Avoid sitting on tables where there is a SS on your left.
Starting 50BB min tables is also great for playing HU vs donks.
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Outlaw
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Full House
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Originally Posted by HoopyDude
Table select a bit more and leave tables when the average VPIP is <20% unless there is a big fish still there. Avoid sitting on tables where there is a SS on your left.
Starting 50BB min tables is also great for playing HU vs donks.
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I think you misspoke.. generally you want short stackers to your left because they are typically shoving <10% of hands.. steal steal steal all day and then fold to a shove if the numbers aren't right. Download all in expert to work on that part of your game. If you have ever played SNGs it'll be very easy.
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Hoopy
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Riverballs
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Yeah my mistake they (assuming tight SS) should be on your left so you can steal like a monkey. Just play your 5NL game mbiz and adjust as needed - add in new stuff slowly.
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eragotte
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Flush
Join Date: Feb 2009
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i didnt find 5nl and 10nl very different at all, maybe too small a sample or bad table selection? i played shorthanded though, maybe its a difference
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Robb
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by eragotte
i didnt find 5nl and 10nl very different at all, maybe too small a sample or bad table selection? i played shorthanded though, maybe its a difference
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The difference is mainly psychological, imo. We "respect" the move up and therefore look for any differences, rather than focusing on the similarities. It's just human nature. That said, OP has to take his time until he's mentally adjusted to the stakes.
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Outlaw
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Full House
Join Date: Nov 2007
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All stakes are exactly the same.. the players are different on every table you go to. Adjust to the players, not the stakes.
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spoonitnow
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: IRC Chat Room
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Outlaw
All stakes are exactly the same.. the players are different on every table you go to. Adjust to the players, not the stakes.
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Ding ding ding.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Jason
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: TN
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I agree with the advice to play players and keep playing the same poker game you played before while also making adjustments as needed. That said, when I FINISHED playing $!0NL, I noted the differences from $5NL to $10NL that I encountered. Ultimately, though it's up to you to observe any changes and react accordingly.
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- Jason
 
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spoonitnow
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: IRC Chat Room
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My dick plays 10nl, so if I put the tip of my dick in your ear does that count as a 10nl tip?
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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shallam
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: May 2005
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In my experience the biggest difference between 5NL and 10NL (.02/.05@ stars) is that in 5NL there are more opps who stack off light. I have played extensively at both limits. If you are succesful at 5NL I think you will be succesful at 10NL. 10NL is a little tought but not a huge difference.
With solid straightforward play you will be succesful in the long run in both.
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