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Old 02-18-2009, 03:02 AM     Post subject: Look ok? #1 (permalink)  
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Hero (MP3) ($5.88)
CO ($10.25)
Button ($5)
SB ($10.68)
BB ($6.90)
UTG ($6)
UTG+1 ($6.64)
MP1 ($1.35)
MP2 ($8.27)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, Q
UTG calls $0.05, UTG+1 calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 3 folds, BB calls $0.25, UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.22) J, 8, K (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.80, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.80, 1 fold

Turn: ($2.82) Q (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.50, UTG raises to $4.90 (All-In), Hero calls $2.28 (All-In)

River: ($12.38) 10 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $12.38 | Rake: $0.60

No reads, except villain is very loose.
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:05 AM #2 (permalink)  
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it's fine imo... i'd only consider folding against a 5/5/1.0 or something like that...
 
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:11 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 We're in a 4-way pot in position yet we are c-betting on that flop? I think there may just be too many outs against us (and we don't know if anyone will be check/calling the king). I usually delay c-bet here if everyone checks the turn. Depends on the opponets, but maybe my line is wrong? I just find it hard to know where you're at betting middle pair when checked to on a flop that has numerous straight and flush draws. With the King being out there it's hard to double barrell, because we don't know if villians are check calling draws, top pair, or better. So we can easily be trapping ourself with a c-bet IMO.
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:11 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Ouch since I see possible flush ( clubs ) and up and down straights after the turn card where you went all in.

The only way I would of gone all in if I had a huge bankroll to re buy in.

Who won the pot by the way! Three of a kind can be killed!

Hope it is good news!
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:12 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 Think this is okay to take one stab and then be done with the hand if we're called unimproved. It's drawy and multiway so we'd expect a king to lead out on us here a good amount.

Turn is std.

 
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:16 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 4-way I'm checking behind that flop. Do they have a K, a J, a flush draw? If you can't confidently bet the turn for value I'm not betting the flop (note: it's 4-way).

Turn as played is EZ you could bet a little less, like $2 leaving $3 behind instead of 1/2 your stack. But that's nit-picking.
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We're in a 4-way pot in position yet we are c-betting on that flop? I think there may just be too many outs against us (and we don't know if anyone will be check/calling the king). I usually delay c-bet here if everyone checks the turn. Depends on the opponets, but maybe my line is wrong? I just find it hard to know where you're at betting middle pair when checked to on a flop that has numerous straight and flush draws. With the King being out there it's hard to double barrell, because we don't know if villians are check calling draws, top pair, or better. So we can easily be trapping ourself with a c-bet IMO.
^^^^^^this.

As played the rest is fine IMO, but you should remember theres no need to put yourself in that spot by cbetting that flop.
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:24 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Think this is okay to take one stab and then be done with the hand if we're called unimproved. It's drawy and multiway so we'd expect a king to lead out on us here a good amount.

Turn is std.
But we need to control the size of the pot. We can't play for stacks with mid pair here. If we expect a king to lead the turn, checking the flop saves us money because the king will call our flop bet. If we check the flop and then get checked to on the turn we can fire a bet, but betting both the flop and turn into 3 opponents just builds a big pot for someone else to take from us. If checked to twice we could probably confidently bet any brick turn to shut out any draws that are hoping to see the river.
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:28 AM #9 (permalink)  
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 As you played it though, you can't possibly fold to a less-than-min-raise on the turn.
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:29 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Think this is okay to take one stab and then be done with the hand if we're called unimproved. It's drawy and multiway so we'd expect a king to lead out on us here a good amount.
spew. Unless by K leading you mean donk 1-2bb betting.

You really think all 3 people are going to fold on a super drawy board?

Very briefly, say we bet pot and only win if everyone folds. So that needs to happen 50% of the time. Thus, each individual villain needs to fold 80% of the time. Not happening.

On the turn I think you're actually ahead a lot. 2pair, weirdness as opposed to T9/AT.
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:25 AM #11 (permalink)  
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I agree, flop is spewy as hell.

That, and I "Look ok?"'d... and I want my last few minutes back, damnit.
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