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spoonitnow
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01-09-2008, 07:44 PM
Post subject: LOL HUNDRED DOLLAH BILLS Y'ALL
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This post is using my first 8798 hands at 200nl this year, and is a good example of why patience and a deep bankroll are good things to have.


For people who don't know how to read the PokerEV graph, this shows my net run on all-in situations. Against the average amount I should profit from all of the spots I've been all-in with cards left to come, I'm running a little over $1500 bad, in other words.
From the Flopasetometer screenshot, In 27 sets I'm up less than a buy-in.
In two spots where I've had set-over-set on the flop with the higher set (also both got all-in on the flop), I'm down two buyins.
So for all you little bastards who think you can play higher than your bankroll says you should, know that it takes more than winning to beat the game. It takes time, patience, and a bankroll that can stand the swings without driving you apeshit.
Also know that if you're trying to take this game seriously and make money in the process, you should probably keep more than 20 buy-ins once you start getting up to 50nl and higher.
But hey, after all of this, I'm still only down like $300 ahahahahahaha.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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GatorJH
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sounds like you need to do a better job at polishing your luckbox. I polish mine every day.
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Poker is easy, it's winning at poker that's hard.
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kingme620
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I'm sure this is my own inexperience, but I don't understand why you see so few flops vs hands dealt with AA and even KK.
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by kingme620
I'm sure this is my own inexperience, but I don't understand why you see so few flops vs hands dealt with AA and even KK.
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Because people fold preflop in my games, and I'm not talking about folding preflop with AA or KK either.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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kingme620
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yeah stupid question
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lol show the oversets gettin cracked
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spoonitnow
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On the first I was expecting to see Kx which would have been kinda bad too.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
CO ($249)
Button ($38.80)
Hero ($288)
BB ($32.25)
UTG ($200)
MP1 ($201.35)
MP2 ($280.30)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 , 9 .
1 fold, MP1 raises to $8, 1 fold, CO calls $8, 1 fold, Hero calls $7, BB calls $6.
Flop: ($32) 9 , 5 , K (4 players)
Hero bets $26, BB calls $24.25 (All-In), MP1 raises to $75, CO folds, Hero raises to $280, MP1 calls $118.35 (All-In).
Turn: ($442.95) K (3 players, 2 all-in)
River: ($442.95) 5 (3 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: $442.95
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
SB ($41)
BB ($197.85)
UTG ($206.55)
Hero ($196)
MP2 ($41)
CO ($119.50)
Button ($200.40)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6 , 6 .
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, Button calls $8, 2 folds.
Flop: ($19) 5 , 3 , 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $16, Button raises to $46, Hero raises to $128, Button raises to $192.4, Hero calls $60 (All-In).
Turn: ($395) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($395) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $395.01
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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bigslikk
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Set v. underset 0-2 had me on the floor laughing.
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Chopper
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yeah, you run goot. when's that book due out? you know the one....
HOW TO SUCK AT POKER by SpoonItNow
you said you were willing to write it.
i like how you are hitting sets above 10%, but not cashing in with them. i've SO been there.
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by Chopper
yeah, you run goot. when's that book due out? you know the one....
HOW TO SUCK AT POKER by SpoonItNow
you said you were willing to write it.
i like how you are hitting sets above 10%, but not cashing in with them. i've SO been there.
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Sure I'll write it.
And sets hit 11.76% of the time :P
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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spoonitnow
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I think this is bump-worthy considering the BR management bitching that has been going on lately.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Ragnar4
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Well lets get it out of our system. No BR bitching next month. It's "Move up where they'll respect my raises" month in AUG.
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by Ragnar4
Well lets get it out of our system. No BR bitching next month. It's "Move up where they'll respect my raises" month in AUG.
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Sounds good to me.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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speedcake
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lol thread delivers
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daven
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if i run into flopped quads one more time this week i;ll........
omg online poker rigged
lucky i play with getting closer and closer to 100buy-ins up my sleeve
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d0zer
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Originally Posted by Ragnar4
Well lets get it out of our system. No BR bitching next month. It's "Move up where they'll respect my raises" month in AUG.
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Sounds good to me.
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pgil
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Originally Posted by daven
if i run into flopped quads one more time this week i;ll........
omg online poker rigged
lucky i play with getting closer and closer to 100buy-ins up my sleeve
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that wasn't you I stacked with my quads yesterday was it?
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spoonitnow
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Bump for recent bitching about running bad.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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game's not for you.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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I'm thinking of moving down to where they respect my value bets....
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spoonitnow
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Bump for recent bitching about running bad.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Running -EV is like watching someone bang your wife over and over. Fist meet face.
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Spoon is right, having a deep bankroll is the most important thing in poker. I feel like I am underolled for 50NL with a $3,500 BR. I still split time between 25NL and 50NL until it gets a bit deeper. 10 buy-in downswings feel like mosquito bites
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Originally Posted by Outlaw
Spoon is right, having a deep bankroll is the most important thing in poker. I feel like I am underolled for 50NL with a $3,500 BR. I still split time between 25NL and 50NL until it gets a bit deeper. 10 buy-in downswings feel like mosquito bites 
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If you had a 35,000$ bankroll it wouldn't make a difference unless you were actually a winner @ 50nl.
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kfaess
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Zing!!!
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Nice Zing!
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Reason #3 I have + love my day job.
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zing
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your banner burned here
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surviva316
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the second Set<underset hand is roflz 'cause the rivered 3 was an AWESOME card for you lol.
also thought i'd mention that you should have a really healthy roll/not have tilt issues if you wanna BI for 250bb's at the new deep games on stars. stacks still get in really light, and there's far less wiggle room for tilting. games are lol-reg-fishy though, so i'd recommend sitting there and buying in for 100bb's even if the above criteria don't apply to you
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