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I want this to be a really cool thread, but it's going to take a little bit of time from whoever is going to post in it. I want everyone that does, to take a look at their own game (either through pure speculation, something somebody else pointed out, through pokertracker, etc), and find something about it that is either, a) a leak, or b) very exploitable by an aware opponent (not NECESSARILY a leak, because perhaps not enough people exploit this tendancy).
Then I want you to explain why it's exploitable. First person who uses the ol' c-bets too much gets a swift kick in the nuts from me. Seriously.
I'll start. I was just talking to ping on AIM about this. I have a 142k database. I've check/raised the river exactly zero times. Never, nada, zip. This is bad because it allows for an aware opponent to agressively value bet marginal made hands knowing that they will never get played back at. This is +ev for them, which means it's obviously -ev for me.
FWIW, I don't think it's a move that's often correct, but it needs to be in the bagotrix.
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i have yet to c-bet (after i miss) OOP vs. 2 opponents. so if i do throw a bet OOP vs. 2 opponents after i was the pfr then it's obvious i'm not bluffing w/ missed overcards, etc. and if i check then it's obvious my hand sucks.
EDIT: I HOPE THIS ISN'T "KICK IN THE NUTS" WORTHY
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I like this idea. This will help everyone improve their game.
One thing I've noticed that I tend to do in ring or sngs, is when I have a big hand early, say QQ+, I will tend to raise 4-5x bb, but if I have a mediocre hand I will limp or raise 3x bb... I need to switch it so all my raises are the same. It's such a nub mistake.
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If I limp/call a raise pre-flop I have a pocket pair 22-99. I don't think there are any exceptions other than when the raise is a minraise. Oh, and if I'm on the button with aces and fancy limping. But that's about it.
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I also don't think I *ever* go all-in as a bluff any more, so that's pretty readable I guess.
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I've check/raised the river exactly zero times. Never, nada, zip.
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It's funny, I was just reading an article in praise of check/raising the river and was thinking about how I never do that, and that I should. I know it always catches me very off guard when people do it to me.
One bad habit I have is I tend to think too long about what I'm doing when I have a good hand, versus instachecking with bad ones. I think it's a major tell if anyone's paying attention, which they're usually not, thankfully.
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i have yet to c-bet (after i miss) OOP vs. 2 opponents. so if i do throw a bet OOP vs. 2 opponents after i was the pfr then it's obvious i'm not bluffing w/ missed overcards, etc. and if i check then it's obvious my hand sucks.
EDIT: I HOPE THIS ISN'T "KICK IN THE NUTS" WORTHY
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3 factors should play in if you c-bet
1)hand strength
2)flop texture
3)read on opponents
Are you telling us that you only go by 1) and never check raise the flop against 2 opponents OOP? That is beyond exploitable. It's just poor post flop play.
Edit: there is also a fourth factor. What is your own table image, how active have you been lately.
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i have yet to c-bet (after i miss) OOP vs. 2 opponents. so if i do throw a bet OOP vs. 2 opponents after i was the pfr then it's obvious i'm not bluffing w/ missed overcards, etc. and if i check then it's obvious my hand sucks.
EDIT: I HOPE THIS ISN'T "KICK IN THE NUTS" WORTHY
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3 factors should play in if you c-bet
1)hand strength
2)flop texture
3)read on opponents
Are you telling us that you only go by 1) and never check raise the flop against 2 opponents OOP? That is beyond exploitable. It's just poor post flop play.
Edit: there is also a fourth factor. What is your own table image, how active have you been lately.
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now that i think about i do c/r vs. 2 opponents w/ air
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If I limp/call OOP it's lower pp.
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I tend to go way too far with missed AK...
Against people just calling flop turn river against my pfr, c-bet, I sometimes just keep betting way too far. This would be very exploitable since you could just call down with any pair if you were to pick up on this read...
"Fortunately", I only play SnG, and usually raise all the way to 6th position...
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for quite some time I would raise pf, make my c-bet, and then if called would check the turn. very often I would be pushed off the pot by opp betting here. very exploitable tell to check the turn after a c-bet.
so now i like to take this line sometimes with a real hand, its fun.
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only reraising pf with AA/KK. always reraising pf with AA/KK. so if i reraise pf, guess what ive got.
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i have yet to c-bet (after i miss) OOP vs. 2 opponents. so if i do throw a bet OOP vs. 2 opponents after i was the pfr then it's obvious i'm not bluffing w/ missed overcards, etc. and if i check then it's obvious my hand sucks.
EDIT: I HOPE THIS ISN'T "KICK IN THE NUTS" WORTHY
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3 factors should play in if you c-bet
1)hand strength
2)flop texture
3)read on opponents
Are you telling us that you only go by 1) and never check raise the flop against 2 opponents OOP? That is beyond exploitable. It's just poor post flop play.
Edit: there is also a fourth factor. What is your own table image, how active have you been lately.
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number of opponents in the pot? stack sizes? position? randomness? metagame?
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only reraising pf with AA/KK. always reraising pf with AA/KK. so if i reraise pf, guess what ive got.
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i wanted to add to this.
My reraise range is also roughly aa-kk, the vast majority of the time it is anyway. If someone raises to 4x, and I reraise to 12x, i am incapable of getting away from the hand postflop, because no matter what the board is there is always a hand they could have that I beat that could stack off if they are a donk. So pretty much if i reraise you preflop, you know what i have, and you have odds to call me to hit a set if you had a pp, and you know you will get paid every time.
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Sometimes when my c-bet gets called HU I have a tendancy to get too creative. I think that they are calling because I am cbetting and then I make another PSB on the turn which inevitably gets called. This is a huge leak in my game and I need to stop playing when my cbet gets called.
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i have yet to c-bet (after i miss) OOP vs. 2 opponents. so if i do throw a bet OOP vs. 2 opponents after i was the pfr then it's obvious i'm not bluffing w/ missed overcards, etc. and if i check then it's obvious my hand sucks.
EDIT: I HOPE THIS ISN'T "KICK IN THE NUTS" WORTHY
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3 factors should play in if you c-bet
1)hand strength
2)flop texture
3)read on opponents
Are you telling us that you only go by 1) and never check raise the flop against 2 opponents OOP? That is beyond exploitable. It's just poor post flop play.
Edit: there is also a fourth factor. What is your own table image, how active have you been lately.
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number of opponents in the pot? stack sizes? position? randomness? metagame?
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He said 2 opponents OOP, randomness I already covered by table image and earlier actions. I don't see how metagame differs from table image in this instance?
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I play draws like made hands.
This is really good sometimes, but other times I end up loosing a lot of money to A) a calling station (i didn't have a read that he was as such) or B) an aware player who puts me on a draw and calls down with top pair (not many of these so not as big a problem).
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3 factors should play in if you c-bet
1)hand strength
2)flop texture
3)read on opponents
Are you telling us that you only go by 1) and never check raise the flop against 2 opponents OOP? That is beyond exploitable. It's just poor post flop play.
Edit: there is also a fourth factor. What is your own table image, how active have you been lately.
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how often do you c/r vs. 2 opponents? i believe most of the time check-raising sucks. and as lukie pointed out there should be more than 3-4 things governing your cbets.
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3 factors should play in if you c-bet
1)hand strength
2)flop texture
3)read on opponents
Are you telling us that you only go by 1) and never check raise the flop against 2 opponents OOP? That is beyond exploitable. It's just poor post flop play.
Edit: there is also a fourth factor. What is your own table image, how active have you been lately.
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how often do you c/r vs. 2 opponents? i believe most of the time check-raising sucks. and as lukie pointed out there should be more than 3-4 things governing your cbets.
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lol
First you say that without a hand you NEVER c-bet into more than one opponent OOP and NEVER have a hand when you check into two opponents OOP and now you remind me that there should be more factors governing your c-bets.
I don't think you are stupid so you should get the gist of my first post.
Yes, check raising is a good move in many situations perhaps you should try and figure out when.
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3 factors should play in if you c-bet
1)hand strength
2)flop texture
3)read on opponents
Are you telling us that you only go by 1) and never check raise the flop against 2 opponents OOP? That is beyond exploitable. It's just poor post flop play.
Edit: there is also a fourth factor. What is your own table image, how active have you been lately.
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how often do you c/r vs. 2 opponents? i believe most of the time check-raising sucks. and as lukie pointed out there should be more than 3-4 things governing your cbets.
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lol
First you say that without a hand you NEVER c-bet into more than one opponent OOP and NEVER have a hand when you check into two opponents OOP and now you remind me that there should be more factors governing your c-bets.
I don't think you are stupid so you should get the gist of my first post.
Yes, check raising is a good move in many situations perhaps you should try and figure out when.
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i haven't been defending my play and i'm not defending it now. i gave one of my exploitable habits and got attacked. how often do you check-raise btw?
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3 factors should play in if you c-bet
1)hand strength
2)flop texture
3)read on opponents
Are you telling us that you only go by 1) and never check raise the flop against 2 opponents OOP? That is beyond exploitable. It's just poor post flop play.
Edit: there is also a fourth factor. What is your own table image, how active have you been lately.
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how often do you c/r vs. 2 opponents? i believe most of the time check-raising sucks. and as lukie pointed out there should be more than 3-4 things governing your cbets.
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lol
First you say that without a hand you NEVER c-bet into more than one opponent OOP and NEVER have a hand when you check into two opponents OOP and now you remind me that there should be more factors governing your c-bets.
I don't think you are stupid so you should get the gist of my first post.
Yes, check raising is a good move in many situations perhaps you should try and figure out when.
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i haven't been defending my play and i'm not defending it now. i gave one of my exploitable habits and got attacked. how often do you check-raise btw?
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Alright sorry if you feel attacked, that was not my intention from the beginning.
However there are situations where its clear blunder not to c-bet into two opponents OOP without a hand. I'll give one example.
You have two early position limpers everyone folds to you in the big blind, you have KQs and raise, early pos limpers call. Flop comes Axx. Correct move here is to c-bet around 1/2-2/3 pot , its very likely that they both have a tendency to limp pocket pairs early pos like many people do and if they dont have an ace or better then 1/2 pot bet should do the trick. If it gets called you are done with the hand so it only needs to take the pot down a third of the time which I am convinced it does.
There are numerous situations i like to check raise. One of them is when I am in the blinds with any 2 cards with a flop of say 559 with a habitual bluffer/better in last position - a perfect situation for a check raise bluff.
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If I am pre flop raiser with two laggish active opponents behind to act and flop a 12+out draw I like check raising all in given that stacks are not deep.
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There are numerous situations i like to check raise. One of them is when I am in the blinds with any 2 cards with a flop of say 559 with a habitual bluffer/better in last position - a perfect situation for a check raise bluff.
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i too love to c/r in spots like these. this is about the only time i can think of where i like a c/r. i hate c/r'ing with a great hand because it's like screaming you have a great hand. this is an exploitable habit as well - only check-raising as a bluff.
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There are numerous situations i like to check raise. One of them is when I am in the blinds with any 2 cards with a flop of say 559 with a habitual bluffer/better in last position - a perfect situation for a check raise bluff.
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i too love to c/r in spots like these. this is about the only time i can think of where i like a c/r. i hate c/r'ing with a great hand because it's like screaming you have a great hand. this is an exploitable habit as well - only check-raising as a bluff.
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What about check raising all in with strong 12+ out draws and check raising bluffhappy small stacks with the intension of getting them pot committed? Ever use those?
I don't like check raising the flop with an overpair but with AK when an A or K flops I will check raise occationally.
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There are numerous situations i like to check raise. One of them is when I am in the blinds with any 2 cards with a flop of say 559 with a habitual bluffer/better in last position - a perfect situation for a check raise bluff.
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i too love to c/r in spots like these. this is about the only time i can think of where i like a c/r. i hate c/r'ing with a great hand because it's like screaming you have a great hand. this is an exploitable habit as well - only check-raising as a bluff.
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What about check raising all in with strong 12+ out draws and check raising bluffhappy small stacks with the intension of getting them pot committed? Ever use those?
I don't like check raising the flop with an overpair but with AK when an A or K flops I will check raise occationally.
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yes i really do need to c/r more when i have lots of outs
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I re-raise way too often from the blinds against aggressive late position raisers. If a guy is raising 15% of his hands, and I'm in the blinds with a pocket pair bigger than eights or a big ace, it's bombs away! This might not be that bad, except that I have a really hard time giving up on these pots on the turn when the pot is already huge, and often end up making a desperation shove that inevitably gets called.
Example from 200NL today: a very aggressive guy raised to 6 on the button, and I made it 20 from the small blind with K Q . He called. The flop was JT6 giving me an open-ender plus two overcards. I bet 3/4 pot, and he called again. The turn was a brick and I had a good feeling that he was weak as hell, so I pushed the turn, and he called me with Q6o for bottom pair.
I hadn't seen this guy do anything like that before, so he must have had a good read on me that I would go thermonuclear on his blind steal. This is incredibly exploitable because someone can just call my re-raise with any 2 and call me down if they catch any piece of the flop.
I honestly think I'd do better in the blinds if I only re-raised QQ-AA and folded every single other hand.
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If I limp/call OOP it's lower pp.
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i don't think that's a weakness or something that can be exploited though. if you miss you generally fold, and if you stay in you could have a wide range of hands. people don't just put you on a set.
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I hold onto overpairs too long when a stronger hand is obvious. Like if I have KK, continue $3 into a $4 pot on a T high rainbow, and a solid opponent behind me makes it $12 to go. There is literally no hand I'm ahead of that would make that bet from this opponent. What's $9 more though? Let's see if he fires huge on the turn. Oh look, he bet $25. I'm all in bitch eat it. Wow, go figure, he flopped a set.
Also, I'll continue raising weak hands in position on a tight table even when the only loose player is to my left smooth calling all day long. That also means I stay on bad tables too long.
Oh, and as for you 22-99 EP limp callers, mix in AQ, AKo, and also anything suited and connected (at the same time) when you think you'll get at least one other caller along, and the preflop raiser is not super aggressive postflop. It's ok to play drawing hands OOP sometimes against reasonably loose passive opponents when the pot is laying you ok odds. Just don't make a habit of it. You basically want to play them against the guy who can't lay down TPGK, but value bets it small when he hits it. Yes, I do limp AK from EP half the time.
I just had a hand where I called a large preflop raise in the SB with JTs because the preflop raiser was handing out implied odds like candy after the flop. He gave me every penny he had when I rivered a straight and he was slowplaying top pair which turned into 2 pair.
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One weakness I have is giving up on certain pots too early;and sometimes getting pushed off a hand on the turn or river when my opponent senses weakness.I need to work on that area more.
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staying in pots way too long that i have absolutely no business being in. like hoping for an over or gutshot when i know im beat and need those 1 2 or 3 outers when its really not that big of a deal.
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like hoping for an over or gutshot when i know im beat and need those 1 2 or 3 outers when its really not that big of a deal.
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Dude that alone will kill you bigtime.I've learned when to check fold on the turn when I miss my FD or OESD(I call the flop usually).
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I overvalue AK to much and i can't let go of overpairs.
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I used to do this: after raising preflop, and getting the hand heads-up against another player who had position on me, whenever I opted to check, it was almost always with the intention of folding to a bet. I think it's useful to occasionally check hands that you have the intention of calling with in these situations. Usually I'll do this when I flop something marginal and I don't suspect a worse hand will call a bet, but a worse hand may bet.
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When I multi-table I sometimes get on auto-pilot and make my typical raises without noticing the stack sizes of my opponents. It tends to get me into trouble by quickly commiting a short stack against my raise or myself against a re-raise by them.
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If I limp/call OOP it's lower pp.
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i don't think that's a weakness or something that can be exploited though. if you miss you generally fold, and if you stay in you could have a wide range of hands. people don't just put you on a set.
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If its known you always limp call with low PP, an aware player can raise you with any 2, c-bet and make money off you. Especially as they have nothing, you have no implied odds even when you do hit.
This may not be much of a problem at the lower levels but it's something to bear in mind as you move up.
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When I multi-table I sometimes get on auto-pilot and make my typical raises without noticing the stack sizes of my opponents. It tends to get me into trouble by quickly commiting a short stack against my raise or myself against a re-raise by them.
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this one used to kill me too, but I've grown much more aware of it the more I've played.
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where i lose most of my chips
overbetting the flop oop,get called, and then super stupidly doit again on the turn
dumb dumb dumb
i got to stop this
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jackvance
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If I limp/call OOP it's lower pp.
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i don't think that's a weakness or something that can be exploited though. if you miss you generally fold, and if you stay in you could have a wide range of hands. people don't just put you on a set.
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If its known you always limp call with low PP, an aware player can raise you with any 2, c-bet and make money off you. Especially as they have nothing, you have no implied odds even when you do hit.
This may not be much of a problem at the lower levels but it's something to bear in mind as you move up.
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I have to add though that this is only for HU. With 2+ people already in the pot, I might limp/call with more hands.. also if I'm bigstacked (200BB+) then I might limp/call HU with other things too, because that's when floating/bullying starts to become a very nice strategy. So it's probably not that bad.
Another thing, I don't sit down at tables anymore where the bigstacks/good players are to my left, so I should have position more often than not which clouds my limp/call range significantly.
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Firing 2nd barrells too much, and not firing 3rd barrells often enough. This usually ties into what kind of player villian is.
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My table and seat selection skills could use some work. My standard protocol here is to:
1. quickly open up 8 tables. Sometimes I look at the players per flop % and aim for ones with a higher number.
1a) sit down, with my only seat selection skills being to try avoiding short stacks and good laggs on my left.
1b) just sit down in my reserved seat (or only open seat) if I joined the waiting list.
To go along with this, I have this ego thing where I won't get up and find a new table even if current table conditions aren't optimal. Good for my game in the long run maybe? Bad for my bankroll?
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EricE
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This thread is a good read. If you read all the posts you can say yay or nay to each point madeā¦as it applies to your game. It gives you a good idea of how predictable you are.
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Stakes: Playing $0.10/$0.25 NL
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Lukie
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Firing 2nd barrells too much, and not firing 3rd barrells often enough. This usually ties into what kind of player villian is.
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I don't think I fire ENOUGH 2nd barrells. Granted sometimes I will (and unlike some people, I actually do), and sometimes I'll c/r on 4th street after leading the flop (almost always with the goods though ), but in general, I think it's too easy to float on me.
I rarely 3 barrell a stone-cold bluff, but when I do, I always seem to get called down. Seriouzly. I do my best to actually rep a hand and take the same line I would with a big hand too...
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Miffed22001
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if im multitabling im not opeing with 78s from mp1 ever.
if im single tabling im opeing with every hand in the book from every position and playing your cards not mine.
(multitabling= 4+)
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Miffed22001
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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not playing AK hard enough against players who i know can fold when i play big bet poker with them.
playing AK too hard against players who fucking suck and cant fold even 22 to a reraise preflop and big bet poker.
Playing out too many marginal situations for 2% extra bbs/100 or some dumb crap that just isnt worth it
Not c/r'ing the turn and pushing the river often enough when i feel opps will call the push.
Not c/r'ing the turn, against an op in position, with missed overs to encourage them to push overpairs to the flop or tp on a raggedy flop to pay my overpairs. (lhe has killed this skill for the minute)
Playing too much limit holdem because im fed up of NL.
Not telling every NL player on the site that their balance of hands leading into a pfr'er sucks because they havent played enough 6max lhe.
(this one isnt exploitable btw)
There thats my list.
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for me its playing way to many marginal hands way to early. this always seems to cost me money until I settle down and start playing right.
getting to attached to that KK or QQ totally missing on the flop and trying to either steal it with a big raise of just paying people just to see that last damn card I gotta learn that sometime A high pair doesnt always win.
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It's easy to shoot fish in a barrell............. Just throw in a stick of dynamite!!
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If I limp/call OOP it's lower pp.
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"Been gone so long, forgot how to poker"
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Chicago_Kid
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Sometimes when my c-bet gets called HU I have a tendancy to get too creative. I think that they are calling because I am cbetting and then I make another PSB on the turn which inevitably gets called. This is a huge leak in my game and I need to stop playing when my cbet gets called.
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I've been known to do this when I miss with AK-AJ, particularly when the cards are particularly cold. I usually spew...
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"Been gone so long, forgot how to poker"
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Chicago_Kid
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If I limp/call OOP it's lower pp.
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i don't think that's a weakness or something that can be exploited though. if you miss you generally fold, and if you stay in you could have a wide range of hands. people don't just put you on a set.
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Sometimes I like a 3x raise with 66-99 in MP. If someone catches TPTK, TPGK, or two pair, you are going to make a lot of cash. Doing so with 22-55 makes me a bit more nervous about set-over-set...call me paranoid.
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"Been gone so long, forgot how to poker"
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r8ed
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Getting too loose-agg when I'm up and getting too weak-tight when I'm down.
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