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Danh Bai
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11-04-2008, 02:04 AM
Post subject: line between slowplaying and losing value?
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Straight
Join Date: Jul 2008
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I come across these two phrases a lot on here:
1) Bet to keep the worse hand in and make the better hand fold
2) Don't slowplay
What I'm not sure i get is where the line is drawn between the two. In some ways i feel they contradict each other. For example if I bet just enough to keep the wrse hand in and they improve to beat me on the turn or the river, didn't I solw play it?
I seem to be more successful when I try to take the pot down early, even if I am betting worse hands out. I often get burned when the weaker hand pays against the odds but then improves to beat me.
Can someone shed some light on this for me?
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spoonitnow
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If you bet and a worse hand folds because they aren't getting proper odds to call, then that's a worse result for you than if they called incorrectly.
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kb coolman
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11-04-2008, 02:34 AM
Post subject: Re: line between slowplaying and losing value?
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Flush
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Originally Posted by Danh Bai
I seem to be more successful when I try to take the pot down early, even if I am betting worse hands out.
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I feel the same way sometimes, but it's hard to be objective in this without reviewing a ton of hand history. We tend to remeber the times we get sucked out on, when in reality getting the worse hand to call is overwhelmingly +EV. Risking the suckout is part of the game.
To me, pure slowplaying is checking a strong hand that is still vulnerable. Like flopping two pair or a set, but the board presents a flush draw. If your op is willing to stack off on the draw, you need to get it all in every time for +EV. Loosing the hand sucks really bad, and it's gonna happen from time to time.
Earlier today, I caught QQ and had a three way pot with two other loose aggressive. post-flop, I still had the overs, but two spades were on the board. EP shoves, so does MP, and I insta call. Sure enough, EP is 6s7s, MP is As9s. Perfect situation for me. 3s hits the river, but I'll still make this play over and over again.
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