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Old 04-28-2007, 09:41 PM     Post subject: Limping Pocket Rockets? ZOMG NOOB! #1 (permalink)  
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Do you think limping AA (or high PPs) is -EV? Do you ever do it? I'm asking cos' I was sitting at a table full of tag for like 2 hours. I had many high PPs and every time I raised or re-raised them I got only folds. It was overally very hard to squeeze the money out. The table's PFR% was 14%. I was UTG and caught AA and decided to be tricky. I limped.

Here are the results (sorry for the untidy PT HH):

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Game #3909810383: Hold'em NL ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/04/28 - 22:09:36 (UK)
Table "Stickleback" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 1: PlzMuck ($119.87 in chips)
Seat 2: peteyy ($51.50 in chips)
Seat 3: jupit3r ($53.90 in chips)
Seat 4: _anders_ ($68.10 in chips)
Seat 5: makemuney ($49.25 in chips)
Seat 6: Nudgeman ($27.98 in chips)
PlzMuck: posts small blind $0.25
peteyy: posts big blind $0.50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to jupit3r [Ad Ac]
jupit3r: calls $0.50
_anders_: folds
makemuney: raises to $2.50
Nudgeman: folds
PlzMuck: folds
peteyy: folds
jupit3r: raises to $6
makemuney: calls $3.50
----- FLOP ----- [Ah 2s 8s]
jupit3r: bets $10
makemuney: raises to $43.25 and is all-in
jupit3r: calls $33.25
----- TURN ----- [Ah 2s 8s][5h]
----- RIVER ----- [Ah 2s 8s 5h][Jh]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
makemuney: shows [As Qd] (A Pair of Aces, Queen high)
jupit3r: shows [Ad Ac] (Three of a kind, Aces, Jack high)
jupit3r collected $96.25 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $99.25 Main pot $96.25 Rake $3
Board [Ah 2s 8s 5h Jh]
Seat 1: PlzMuck (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: peteyy (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: jupit3r showed [Ad Ac] and won ($96.25) with Three of a kind, Aces, Jack high
Seat 4: _anders_ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: makemuney showed [As Qd] and lost with A Pair of Aces, Queen high
Seat 6: Nudgeman (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
****HAND ENDS****

Damn it was sweet...
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Old 04-28-2007, 10:01 PM #2 (permalink)  
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You think he stacked off due to you limping them? Or because he just stacks off with AQ?
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Old 04-28-2007, 11:00 PM #3 (permalink)  

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How would you have wanted it to go any other way?

This is how you would want all AA UTG to be played out, surely?
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Old 04-28-2007, 11:24 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 Limping AA UTG is fine if the table is constantly raising limpers.

This hand does not prove anything though. If you raised UTG then AQ would have called, and probably would have stacked off anyways.
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:01 AM #5 (permalink)  
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If I had AQ vs a limp/3-bet pre-flop there's no way I'd stack off with tptk.
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Old 04-29-2007, 12:17 AM     Post subject: Re: Limping Pocket Rockets? ZOMG NOOB! #6 (permalink)  
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I'm asking cos' I was sitting at a table full of tag for like 2 hours. I had many high PPs and every time I raised or re-raised them I got only folds.
Just play LAGgier.. take pots away from them again and again until they get angry and start playing back.. or just move tables.
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Old 04-29-2007, 04:10 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Old 04-29-2007, 04:19 AM #8 (permalink)  
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agreed play laggier or find a different table.
and no i dont like limping AA here at 50nl.
also i agree with triptan3s and i like the avatar...
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Old 04-29-2007, 08:31 AM #9 (permalink)  
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You think he stacked off due to you limping them? Or because he just stacks off with AQ?
No way this guy would've stacked with AQ if I hadn't limped 'em.
If I had raised the AA as standard and he would've called it would be very hard to get his whole stack on this flop. If I would've been in position to him and re-raised I'm 95% sure he would've mucked AQo PF.

Okay... I admit the HH was a brag. I just wanted to know if I was clever or if this was a stupid move.

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and no i dont like limping AA here at 50nl.
I don't usually like it either. This was the first time I limped any 66+ PP in ~50k hands. So you think it's good at 1000NL, eh?
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Old 04-29-2007, 02:31 PM #10 (permalink)  
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well i just hate how it gives away your hand so much... good thing this guy didnt care and stacked off with top pair.
i think at higher levels that i dont play, play becomes trickier and limp raising wouldnt give it away as much.
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Old 04-29-2007, 02:51 PM     Post subject: Re: Limping Pocket Rockets? ZOMG NOOB! #11 (permalink)  
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I'm asking cos' I was sitting at a table full of tag for like 2 hours. I had many high PPs and every time I raised or re-raised them I got only folds.
Just play LAGgier.. take pots away from them again and again until they get angry and start playing back.. or just move tables.
This is very good info.
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:19 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Even though your table is tight, it is good table if people are prepared to stack off after your limpreraise with AQ here. Given your description, I wouldn't believe this is possible.
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