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socal1111
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06-21-2008, 10:53 PM
Post subject: leak management
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Straight
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 191
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What's your biggest leak?
How much time should we spend plugging our leaks VS. improving our A-Game?
Should the time be equal?
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spoonitnow
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: IRC Chat Room
Posts: 5,406
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Improving your leaks IS improving your A-game.
An example of improving your non-A-game would be taking measures to limit tilt.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Unibomber14
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Flush
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: The future
Posts: 321
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If you spend enough time on your leaks, then your game should improve naturally in all aspects. Think about it this way.
For the sake of simplicity, lets say there are only three aspects to poker. Position, preflop play, and putting opponents on ranges. I will use these since they are commonly considered important aspects for beginners.
Lets say I have a great understanding for position, and preflop play, but putting opponents on ranges is something I have trouble with. So, I spend a month focusing every ounce of my ability into putting my opponents on ranges. I become very good at it, and feel that my game has improved dramatically thanks to FTR's help. (plug) Now, since I am so good at opponent ranges, even though I'm not any worse at the other two aspects, they are now my leaks since they are the weaker parts of my game, and I am now probably playing at a higher level. So, positional and preflop play become my leaks and I work on them. I improve them to the point where opponent ranges is my weak point, and start working on that. This is how we slowly improve our game and not even realize how good we are getting.
I hope that made sense. I haven't posted in a long while.
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d0zer
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Moderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,519
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My biggest leaks include:
-calling big bets on the river with marginal hands.
-cbetting loose players too much.
-bad bluffs.
-not trusting my gut when my brain's undecided.
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socal1111
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Straight
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 191
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Improving your leaks IS improving your A-game.
An example of improving your non-A-game would be taking measures to limit tilt.
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Sometimes yes... sometimes no...
If your trying to plug your "take-all-the-money-you-won-from-poker-and-bet-it-at-the-blackjack table" leak... you're working on non A-game.
If your trying to plug your "playing-while-pissed-at-wife" leak... you're working on non A-game.
Plugging "playing on 2 hrs. sleep" leak is non A-game.
There are MANY examples of plugging non A-game leaks... IMO, there are actually more leaks players need to plug that AREN'T A-game.
Improve those... A-game naturally improves! 
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JKDS
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 1,024
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my biggest leak is stacking off with two pair or better when all the information i have says im beat.
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Originally Posted by OngBonga
But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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sarbox68
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Full House
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: wondering where the 3 extra chairs at my 6max table came from
Posts: 871
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Originally Posted by JKDS
my biggest leak is stacking off with two pair or better when all the information i have says im beat.
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godd@mn I hate laying down two pair or straights... and I've lost the stacks to prove it 
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: This room is a good place to be
Posts: 8,379
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so cal, do you think you make too many threads with all caps titles?
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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socal1111
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Straight
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 191
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
so cal, do you think you make too many threads with all caps titles?
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YES! 
Good point... I'll try not to.
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donkbee
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WELP
Join Date: May 2005
Location: so close but so far
Posts: 3,604
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I'm editing it because it tilts me.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.
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Fnord
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06-24-2008, 09:49 AM
Post subject: Re: leak management
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#11 (permalink)
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Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I'll Do You Like A Truck
Posts: 19,333
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by socal1111
What's your biggest leak?
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Strip Clubs
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DrivingDog
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Full House
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 923
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My eighteenth birthday when I guzzled six cans of beer straight. Man that was a HUGE leak.
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"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." (George Bush).
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WillburForce
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Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SW London
Posts: 516
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by DrivingDog
My eighteenth birthday when I guzzled six cans of beer straight. Man that was a HUGE leak.
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made me chuckle
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