Poker Forum

Over 1,246,000 Posts!

REGISTER
Subscribe to FTR web feed
Already Registered?      Username:    Password:   Remember      Forgot Password

Poker Forum

  > 

Beginners Circle

  > 

Is this a leak or am I just getting shit on by variance?

  
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Donachello
Old 12-13-2009, 04:55 PM     Post subject: Is this a leak or am I just getting shit on by variance? #1 (permalink)  
Donachello's Avatar
Full House

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: TROLOLOLOLOL
Posts: 849
Donachello will become famous soon enough
 I'm confused. This kind of stuff has been happening to me so much recently that I am starting to doubt whether I am playing correctly (I feel like I am) or whether I have a huge leak in my game. This type of hand along with a giant clump of bad beats has been hitting me super hard for the last two weeks so hopefully you all can tell me if I played this alright or not.

From what I have seen this guy is just a standard 1c2c fish. Doesn't play a ton of hands and is pretty weak when he does play. I was putting him on 10s, Qs, or Js. Also sorry for showing results and not using the hand converter but I'm on my parents comp right now.

Full Tilt Poker Game #16768258372: Table Mello (6 max) - $0.01/$0.02 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:45:58 ET - 2009/12/13
Seat 1: GrafKoks888 ($2.24)
Seat 2: FSark ($2.06)
Seat 3: Caprichosso ($1.67)
Seat 4: bratango ($2)
Seat 5: The DC3 ($3.95)
Seat 6: IWTD ($1.64)
Caprichosso posts the small blind of $0.01
bratango posts the big blind of $0.02
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to The DC3 [Ks Kc]
The DC3 raises to $0.08
IWTD raises to $0.14
GrafKoks888 folds
FSark folds
Caprichosso folds
bratango folds
bratango adds $0.02
The DC3 raises to $0.38
IWTD has 15 seconds left to act
IWTD calls $0.24
*** FLOP *** [4c 2c 4h]
The DC3 has 15 seconds left to act
The DC3 bets $0.55
IWTD raises to $1.26, and is all in
The DC3 calls $0.71
IWTD shows [As 4s]
The DC3 shows [Ks Kc]
*** TURN *** [4c 2c 4h] [8s]
*** RIVER *** [4c 2c 4h 8s] [7c]
IWTD shows three of a kind, Fours
The DC3 shows two pair, Kings and Fours
IWTD wins the pot ($3.09) with three of a kind, Fours
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3.31 | Rake $0.22
Board: [4c 2c 4h 8s 7c]
Seat 5: The DC3 showed [Ks Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Fours
Seat 6: IWTD showed [As 4s] and won ($3.09) with three of a kind, Fours
Reply With Quote

Play for FREE and practice your game at...

Join the FTR Poker Forum to disable these banners and start posting!
Outlaw
Old 12-13-2009, 05:07 PM #2 (permalink)  
Outlaw's Avatar
Full House

Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,033
Outlaw
This is just a standard cooler.. he likely woulda done the same thing with a smaller overpair or top pair. Don't get frustrated.. shit happens.

Post some more hands.. one is not enough to see if you have leaks.
Reply With Quote
TonyB73
Old 12-13-2009, 08:41 PM #3 (permalink)  
TonyB73's Avatar
Flush

Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 414
TonyB73
Standard. Reload and stay as long as this guy is still there.
Reply With Quote
surviva316
Old 12-13-2009, 08:49 PM #4 (permalink)  
surviva316's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Confusing people with my liberal biblicisms
Posts: 1,625
surviva316 will become famous soon enough
 how else do you suggest we play the hand?
Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690 View Post
I just wanted to share singing vaginas.
 
Reply With Quote
Aces4paul
Old 12-13-2009, 09:06 PM #5 (permalink)  

Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 3
Aces4paul
this is as they say poker guy couldve had an over pair 7,s even you had to play it no choice you made the right it was just a bad beat I usually wouldnt fold k k without an ace on the board or an obvious draw either sometimes you win those hands with the opponent holding ace k
Reply With Quote
bjsaust
Old 12-13-2009, 11:50 PM #6 (permalink)  
bjsaust's Avatar
Straight Flush

Join Date: May 2007
Location: Ballarat, Australia
Posts: 5,842
bjsaust is on a distinguished road
Send a message via MSN to bjsaust
Looks pretty good to me. NH.
Just playing to improve.
 
Reply With Quote
swiggidy
Old 12-14-2009, 02:31 AM #7 (permalink)  
swiggidy's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Waiting in the shadows ...
Posts: 3,777
swiggidy will become famous soon enough
 Leak. Stop letting your opponents flop trips.
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")
 
Reply With Quote
Donachello
Old 12-15-2009, 06:10 PM #8 (permalink)  
Donachello's Avatar
Full House

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: TROLOLOLOLOL
Posts: 849
Donachello will become famous soon enough
 Here's another hand I'm not sure if I played right. I didn't have any long term reads on this guy other than I hadn't seen him play that many hands. Although from the preflop action I was putting him on AJ+ and 1010+ although based on how the hand played out I was 95% sure I was ahead at the point I shoved. Did I play it too strongly or should I simply have called and reevaluated on the turn?

Full Tilt Poker Game #16824285023: Table Sasser (6 max) - $0.01/$0.02 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:45:52 ET - 2009/12/15
Seat 1: The DC3 ($3.60)
Seat 2: 123231312 ($2.97)
Seat 3: Baby_Love1 ($2.51)
Seat 4: curriculumvitae ($2.45)
Seat 5: The Wuzi ($3.34)
Seat 6: Wille90 ($4.78)
curriculumvitae posts the small blind of $0.01
The Wuzi posts the big blind of $0.02
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to The DC3 [Qd Ac]
Wille90 folds
The DC3 raises to $0.10
123231312 folds
Baby_Love1 folds
curriculumvitae raises to $0.32
The Wuzi folds
The DC3 calls $0.22
*** FLOP *** [4d 3h Ah]
curriculumvitae checks
The DC3 bets $0.30
curriculumvitae has 15 seconds left to act
curriculumvitae raises to $0.90
The DC3 raises to $3.28, and is all in
curriculumvitae calls $1.23, and is all in
The DC3 shows [Qd Ac]
curriculumvitae shows [Kh 5h]
Uncalled bet of $1.15 returned to The DC3
*** TURN *** [4d 3h Ah] [2s]
*** RIVER *** [4d 3h Ah 2s] [8h]
The DC3 shows a pair of Aces
curriculumvitae shows a flush, Ace high
curriculumvitae wins the pot ($4.60) with a flush, Ace high
The DC3: wow
The DC3 adds $0.85
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.92 | Rake $0.32
Board: [4d 3h Ah 2s 8h]
Seat 1: The DC3 showed [Qd Ac] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: curriculumvitae (small blind) showed [Kh 5h] and won ($4.60) with a flush, Ace high
Reply With Quote
Donachello
Old 12-15-2009, 06:20 PM #9 (permalink)  
Donachello's Avatar
Full House

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: TROLOLOLOLOL
Posts: 849
Donachello will become famous soon enough
 And one more situation I have trouble with. I dunno if this was too spewy a call or not on the flop.
Seat 1: The DC3 ($3.95)
Seat 2: 123231312 ($3.16), is sitting out
Seat 3: Baby_Love1 ($3.68)
Seat 4: inagoodmood ($2.36)
Seat 5: The Wuzi ($2.95)
Seat 6: SlowJoe2 ($2.40), is sitting out
inagoodmood posts the small blind of $0.01
The Wuzi posts the big blind of $0.02
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to The DC3 [Kd Jd]
The DC3 raises to $0.08
Baby_Love1 calls $0.08
inagoodmood calls $0.07
The Wuzi folds
*** FLOP *** [Th Ts Qs]
inagoodmood checks
The DC3 bets $0.16
Baby_Love1 calls $0.16
inagoodmood raises to $0.60
The DC3 calls $0.44
Baby_Love1 folds
*** TURN *** [Th Ts Qs] [6s]
SlowJoe2 has returned
inagoodmood bets $1
The DC3 folds
Uncalled bet of $1 returned to inagoodmood
inagoodmood mucks
inagoodmood wins the pot ($1.52)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.62 | Rake $0.10
Board: [Th Ts Qs 6s]
Seat 1: The DC3 folded on the Turn
Seat 4: inagoodmood (small blind) collected ($1.52), mucked
[00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
[00:30] <DC> daven
[00:30] <DC> on my hand?
[00:30] <daven> yep
[00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
[00:30] <daven> nice reason
[00:30] <daven> no further questions
[00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

Problem officer...?
 
Reply With Quote
surviva316
Old 12-15-2009, 07:17 PM #10 (permalink)  
surviva316's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Confusing people with my liberal biblicisms
Posts: 1,625
surviva316 will become famous soon enough
 we need reads on villain in ALL of these hands. folding both hands PF are my standard plays though. 3b'ing the flop in the AQo hand really seems spewy.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690 View Post
I just wanted to share singing vaginas.
 
Reply With Quote
microgrinder
Old 12-15-2009, 07:23 PM #11 (permalink)  
microgrinder's Avatar
3-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 101
microgrinder
In the 1st hand I just think it's funny that you say you thought his range was TT+, AJ+ PF and then say you were 95% sure that you were ahead post flop when he C/R. What were you putting him on when he C/R?

In the second hand I don't think I like the flop bet and I definitely don't like the call. The board is very wet and paired, so your draw isn't that good. Plus it's 3 way.
Reply With Quote
microgrinder
Old 12-15-2009, 07:40 PM #12 (permalink)  
microgrinder's Avatar
3-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 101
microgrinder
Quote:
Originally Posted by surviva316
folding both hands PF are my standard plays though.
Raising KJs from CO isn't std for you?
Reply With Quote
tomato paste carnage
Old 12-15-2009, 08:17 PM #13 (permalink)  
tomato paste carnage's Avatar
Straight

Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: in a van down by the river
Posts: 115
tomato paste carnage
Quote:
Originally Posted by microgrinder
Quote:
Originally Posted by surviva316
folding both hands PF are my standard plays though.
Raising KJs from CO isn't std for you?
Depends on how the BU / SB / BB are playing. It's hard to pigeon hole X hand into X position without knowing what is going on around you at the table.
Tilt is poker cancer. You catch it, you die.
 
Reply With Quote
surviva316
Old 12-15-2009, 08:31 PM #14 (permalink)  
surviva316's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Confusing people with my liberal biblicisms
Posts: 1,625
surviva316 will become famous soon enough
 oh whoops. i can't read these damned unconverted hands. i saw there were 6 occupied seats and hero acted first, so i though he was UTG. i almost never open fold KJs in the CO, and fwiw, i often open it even UTG, but it's not my "standard" play
Quote:
Originally Posted by BooG690 View Post
I just wanted to share singing vaginas.
 
Reply With Quote
Hoopy
Old 12-15-2009, 10:33 PM #15 (permalink)  
Hoopy's Avatar
Full House

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Riverballs
Posts: 777
Hoopy is an unknown quantity at this point
 Hand 1 - No problem, well played.

Hand 2 - You need a read that he's spewy/loose
to continue after the 3 bet, if he tight then folding is best
due to reverse implied odds.

Hand 3 - Of your 8 outs 2 are tainted, I think his range super strong (no Queen will do this) so fold.
 
Reply With Quote
Donachello
Old 12-16-2009, 06:04 AM #16 (permalink)  
Donachello's Avatar
Full House

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: TROLOLOLOLOL
Posts: 849
Donachello will become famous soon enough
 Thanks.

Yeah I have KJs as a fairly standard opening hand. =\
I always forget about tainted outs
[00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
[00:30] <DC> daven
[00:30] <DC> on my hand?
[00:30] <daven> yep
[00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
[00:30] <daven> nice reason
[00:30] <daven> no further questions
[00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

Problem officer...?
 
Reply With Quote
microgrinder
Old 12-16-2009, 08:22 PM #17 (permalink)  
microgrinder's Avatar
3-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 101
microgrinder
KJs open from CO is fine as a std, I assume most people will show profit from doing this. If it were UTG or UTG+1 I would say that it really depends on how you play and table conditions.
Reply With Quote
Reply
Latest Poker News
KoRnholio Old 05-26-2012, 03:08 PM    Australia Legalized Online Poker coming up in next 6 to 12 Months
According to an email sent out by Mark Bryan, a gaming analyst at Merrill Lynch, the Australian government plans to legalize online poker sometime in the next six to 12 months. This move will coincide ...

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT. The time now is 04:17 AM.

Contact Us - Archive - Top

FTR Testimonials

All content
© FlopTurnRiver.com 		Advertising  |   Partners  |   Testimonials  |   T&C  |   Contact Us  |   FTR News & Press  |   Site Map  |   Search FTR

Full Tilt  |   Titan Poker  |   UltimateBet  |   Poker Stars  |   Ladbrokes Bonus  |   Sportsbook  |   Cake Poker  

Play Texas Holdem Online, Online Texas Holdem Strategy, & Poker Forum
This is not a gambling website.