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bearing
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03-21-2006, 03:19 AM
Post subject: Late Positions is Awesome
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Uk
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Full table.
Crap player calls UTG
Tight player calls in mp1 with KQ (maybe suited, who cares)
two more callers
You are on the button with KJ-KT, raise the pot. KQ folds here, crap player with K7 calls. You take his money over a period of time.
KQ folds here, awesome. See how awesome this is?
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Chicago_Kid
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03-21-2006, 04:53 AM
Post subject: Re: Late Positions is Awesome
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Originally Posted by bearing
Full table.
Crap player calls UTG
Tight player calls in mp1 with KQ (maybe suited, who cares)
two more callers
You are on the button with KJ-KT, raise the pot. KQ folds here, crap player with K7 calls. You take his money over a period of time.
KQ folds here, awesome. See how awesome this is?
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oh my god...what is going on here.
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"Been gone so long, forgot how to poker"
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mb2447
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03-21-2006, 05:29 AM
Post subject: Re: Late Positions is Awesome
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Straight
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Originally Posted by Chicago_Kid
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Originally Posted by bearing
Full table.
Crap player calls UTG
Tight player calls in mp1 with KQ (maybe suited, who cares)
two more callers
You are on the button with KJ-KT, raise the pot. KQ folds here, crap player with K7 calls. You take his money over a period of time.
KQ folds here, awesome. See how awesome this is?
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oh my god...what is going on here. |
ditto. i read that over 3-4 times and am still confused.
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AWOL.
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Pelion
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4-of-a-Kind
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yea position rocks. Now breathe lol
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Renton
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Straight Flush
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ya xcept when aware player with KQ realizes, "hmmm he might be making a position play with a hand I dominate like KJ or KT, ok I'll call"
Flop: K22 rainbow.
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AHiltz
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by Renton
ya xcept when aware player with KQ realizes, "hmmm he might be making a position play with a hand I dominate like KJ or KT, ok I'll call"
Flop: K22 rainbow.
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Donkey from middle position with 23 suited stacks you both. 
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AvatarKava
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Flush
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Originally Posted by AHiltz
Donkey from middle position with 23 suited stacks you both. |
nh
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metaxy6
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03-21-2006, 05:20 PM
Post subject: Re: Late Positions is Awesome
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Flush
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Originally Posted by bearing
KQ folds here, awesome. See how awesome this is?
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Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, um...ummm - I'm coming in raising and daring you to 3 bet. At least it will get that pesky donkey's 23 suited out of the pot.
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samsonite2100
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Wait, are you saying it's good to use position to your advantage? I may need to rethink my strategy...
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SinkRox
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Full House
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how many players really fold kq to a raise? if your raising limpers with kt then good luck sir cos youll probably need it.
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Renton
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by SinkRox
how many players really fold kq to a raise? .
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I do. About 10 times a day.
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Originally Posted by SinkRox
if your raising limpers with kt then good luck sir cos youll probably need it.
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I do. About 10 times a day.
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Fnord
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If it's a single limper, he sucks and I can have my way with him, then I'm raising a lot worse than KTo.
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Pelion
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by Renton
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Originally Posted by SinkRox
how many players really fold kq to a raise? .
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I do. About 10 times a day.
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Originally Posted by SinkRox
if your raising limpers with kt then good luck sir cos youll probably need it.
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I do. About 10 times a day. |
Another one here.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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bearing
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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unfortunately the next time i raise its with AK and the flop is again K22
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you cant handle the truth!
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SinkRox
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Full House
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Location: Brighton, UK
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i know we often fold kq to a raise, but most others dont.. but i guess if theyre willing to call with less than kt then its worth raising kt. Although this is just something i dont do often cos I could see myself building a big pot and loosing to kj,jq.
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Pelion
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4-of-a-Kind
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Well you gotta be careful who you do it to. If im at a table of loose-passive calling stations then im just value betting.
The times im raising KT are when I want to punish a weak limp, hopefully pick up the pot preflop or have some pretty strong outs if I get a call. If he flat calls its usually a PP anyway so I can cbet an AKQ and he folds, but he doesnt believe me if I hit my T and he calls down. I like raising 9Ts late for the same reason (but only against specific players). They call you down with 88 when you hit the 9 or T, fold when you miss on an A or K (sometimes Q,J)high flop and you only have to let them have it if it comes all low cards.
edit: Just to make it super clear, I am only doing this to specific players, and even then its rare. If I hit the 9 or T I make small value bets to the river and ill fold it to strength. Im only interested in winning small pots with these hands (unless I hit my straight or flush), im not going to waste time losing a big one.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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siknd
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Flush
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"You are on the button with KJ-KT, raise the pot. KQ folds here, crap player with K7 calls. You take his money over a period of time. "
this is bastardized version of a squeeze play. the difference being you dont want them both to fold because you magically know that you have the first caller dominated.
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underminedsk
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Flush
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try raising non-dominated hands like 56s rather than KTo
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