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1Gamblin_Man
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01-28-2009, 03:19 AM
Post subject: KTs flops Top Two Pair
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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Full Tilt Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
UTG: 161.50 BB
Hero (MP): 98.50 BB
CO: 130.50 BB
BTN: 112.50 BB
SB: 14.50 BB
Pre-Flop: K T dealt to Hero (MP)
2 folds, Hero raises to 3BB, CO calls 3BB, BTN folds, SB calls 2BB
Flop: (9BB) K T 8 (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets 5BB, CO calls 5BB, SB folds
Turn: (19BB) 8 (2 Players)
Hero bets 5BB, CO calls 5BB
River: (29BB) 7 (2 Players)
Hero bets 10BB, CO calls 10BB
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Outlaw
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Full House
Join Date: Nov 2007
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I bet more on turn and river.
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JeffreyGB
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: Jenks, OK
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I bet more on the flop, turn, and river. I want to build a pot that can end up with both my opponent and I all-in on by the river.
Having some information about villian is important here too - how likely is he to have an 8 and call preflop and on the flop? In saying that I want to build the pot, I assume this is pretty unlikely. That's not always true, but for the players that it isn't true about, they'll get committed here with QQ,JJ,99, AK, KQ, KJ, QT, JT, and probably some other things that you still have crushed.
There is a danger of J9 once the river gets there, but if you bet more on the flop and turn, you decrease that danger (and/or mitigate it by charging him enough to make his call a mistake). Even with this possibility, there's still enough in his range to make me happy to have my bet called.
Summary: Bet bigger with your made hands, to build the pot and force draws to make a mistake if they call you.
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amifat
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 92
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Originally Posted by JeffreyGB
I bet more on the flop, turn, and river. I want to build a pot that can end up with both my opponent and I all-in on by the river.
Having some information about villian is important here too - how likely is he to have an 8 and call preflop and on the flop? In saying that I want to build the pot, I assume this is pretty unlikely. That's not always true, but for the players that it isn't true about, they'll get committed here with QQ,JJ,99, AK, KQ, KJ, QT, JT, and probably some other things that you still have crushed.
There is a danger of J9 once the river gets there, but if you bet more on the flop and turn, you decrease that danger (and/or mitigate it by charging him enough to make his call a mistake). Even with this possibility, there's still enough in his range to make me happy to have my bet called.
Summary: Bet bigger with your made hands, to build the pot and force draws to make a mistake if they call you.
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Thats pretty much exactually what i was thinking, in a nutshell you have a great hand here on the flop so bet it, most of the time villians going to call with raggy shit all the way through against your Top 2
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AFchung
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UCLA
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you're really missing out on value by betting that small
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minSim
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: Deventer
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Yeah, bet more on FTR !
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AFchung
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UCLA
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Originally Posted by minSim
Yeah, bet more on FTR !
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i took about 15 seconds to realize what you just said haha. "what the hell does this guy mean... bet more on the forums? huh?"
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CasalRoyal
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Brasil-DF
Posts: 88
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1Gamblin_Man, I understand KKTT here became a weak hand just after the turn - since you left the action to go so far - despite it´s still a top pair! Thus I think you acted allright!
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