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ender555
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 647
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I raise a dollar with KQo and get 3 callers, i'm in MP
the pot is 4.85 and a K hits flop
I raise 4
2 fold 1 re-raises to 8
i fold.. correct play? he had a much deeper stack
my first hand at that table i had no read onh im
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ville18
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Straight
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Yo mama
Posts: 223
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You got what u wanted, why fold?
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dsaxton
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 2,667
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by ville18
You got what u wanted, why fold?
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He wanted to take the pot down right there without a raise. He got raised.
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Straight
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 187
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by ville18
You got what u wanted, why fold?
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Because most of the time his hand is beat here. I think it's a good fold.
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hagakure
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Straight
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 215
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It would help to know what else came out on the flop. Was it another pair or something? That would have scared me out on the first hand at the table too.
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drmcboy
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DrButtInski
Administrator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 9,602
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Agree with above, you can't raise with KQ and then fold when you make top pair (I'm assuming no A on flop) unless the board is suited or something.
This would be a prime example of why not to play KQ, it can't stand pressure even when you make a hand.
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JeffreyGB
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Jenks, OK
Posts: 3,477
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Depending on things like position, board, and stack sizes, I'm often willing to push in a situation like you describe. KJ will frequently make the play he made here.
That said, I may be slightly push happy because I play small stack (which rewards aggressive play).
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ender555
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 647
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well, I was coming off a string off ridiculous bad beats... and I thought the play was folding. Most of you have good arguments.. There's no real clear answer except to maybe re-raise him again. I personally think there was just so many ways to be beaten there was no reason to do this. Not that many people go hog-wild with raises, especiall when the bet is the pot. This guy didn't seem too aggressive after this hand either.
edit::// and I dont think this hand shows why you shouldn't play KQ. KQ is a good hand and I will continue to play it. Even good hands get cracked man..
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ensign_lee
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The University of TEXAS at Austin
Posts: 2,237
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I fold. KA will own you and take a large portion of your stack if you keep calling. Remember, you're not just calling this $4, you're committing yourself to call on future streets if you call this reraise. I'm willing to bet you're behind here.
But the players up at $200 NL don't tend to play KJ and stuff like that all that often, so my opinion might be a bit tainted.
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JeffreyGB
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Jenks, OK
Posts: 3,477
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I overlooked that you raised preflop. That changes things a bit...this could well have been a good fold.
Typically, I limp KQo, as most hands that dominate it will raise.
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