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KK OOP after 4betting PF vs a 0% 3bettor.

  
 
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Old 10-24-2009, 07:09 AM     Post subject: KK OOP after 4betting PF vs a 0% 3bettor. #1 (permalink)  
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Villian is TAGish. Not a real big sample as of yet. 14/7 0% 3bet over 65 hands. After his min3bet I'm thinking JJ+, AK. My image is fairly tight so I assume his 3betting range is pretty tight, I might be able to exclude JJ a lot of the time.

Looking back on the hand I think b/f flop is by far the best play, but I think I kind of shit brix on this flop, as I'm crushed by so much of his 3betting range. 6 combos of AA still crush me, 3 combos each of JJ and QQ and only 8 combos of AK are out there.

6+3+3+8 = 20 combos. 12 of which we are huge dogs to. I think b/f this for like, $1.80 would be best, if he just flats I'm kind of lost though. Thoughts?

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Old 10-24-2009, 07:56 AM #2 (permalink)  
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lol my bad. I must have used the scroll thing on my mouse. :/
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If he's 3-betting that tight I'm just gonna 4x 4 bet this here b/c he isn't folding anything. Just get more monies in the pot than this so he'll stack off lighter post flop and yeah we just always get more monies in vs AK or what not before he bricks the flop. Shoving preflop is probably fine too vs someone whos stacking off with theyre entrie 3-betting range regardless and since we're obv ahead of this range.

Post flop kinda sucks like you're beat a lot here. If you're confident in that range you gave him preflop though then betting seems bad since we don't get value from anything (unless he just flats AK.) I think checking is a good way to start and then maybe b/f the turn if it checks through gah idk it's awkard as hell.
 
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Old 10-25-2009, 02:51 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I think a bet/fold on the flop is fine.. if he flats that he probably has a set.. i dont think aq is in his range, but ive been surprised before.
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