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Old 06-27-2004, 03:51 PM     Post subject: kicker on two pairs #1 (permalink)  
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I’ve been challenged on this twice in the past week, and would appreciate is someone of experience could confirm this scenario (suit is irrelevant, no possible flush)…

Player A: KJ
Player B: K2
River: AKQQ4

Result Player A: KKQQA
Result Player B: KKQQA

Based on the “best 5 available” rule my belief is the A from the board is a shared kicker for each two-pair, and the pot would be split.

Opponents have claimed that 2nd pocket card must be used for the kicker (J vs 2) when both players share the same two-pair hand, and Player A would take the pot with a J kicker.

Confirm? Thanks--
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Old 06-27-2004, 04:33 PM #2 (permalink)  
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You are right, it is the best five card hand, in this situation KKQQA. The only difference would be if you were playing by some weird variant or weird rules where you had to use both of your hole cards.
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Old 06-27-2004, 05:36 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Yeah, you're definitely right.

The specific situation you listed is an uncommon one (with 3 pairs), but the much more common one is like this:

A3
A2

Board: AQT75

Split pot.

You certainly don't have to use a kicker from your hole cards, its just usually isn't the case that the 5th best card from both hands is on the board, unless they're both playing hands like A3 and A2.
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Old 06-27-2004, 06:27 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Here's a question that I have about split pots. I have been online a few times and seen a pot that was $10.25. It was split between 2 people, and 1 person got $5.12, the other got $5.13

Why did one person get more? I have seen 1 hypothesis on this, the guy who got more said, "It's because my cards are suited." But that doesn't make any sense.

Usually at home games, if there is extra, we leave it in the pot for the next hand.
I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
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Old 06-27-2004, 06:59 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Yeah, haha, I've wondered about that as well. I really don't know for a fact, but I think if the pot is odd it may go to the person who made the last bet (and the caller gets the penny less). At least its been that way in a few hands that I've seen like that.

Not that I really care about a penny, but I have noticed that and been curious.
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Old 06-27-2004, 08:19 PM #6 (permalink)  
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If there is an odd amount in the pot, the little extra is given to the first person to the left of the dealer button.
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Old 06-28-2004, 03:39 AM #7 (permalink)  
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And the "little extra" is always a penny. Boy, what an advantage that is!
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Old 06-28-2004, 05:12 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Well, if in a tourney online it's a dollar in tournament dollars, however, if in a live tournament the extra should be the smallest chip currently in play.
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Old 06-28-2004, 05:30 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Quote:
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And the "little extra" is always a penny. Boy, what an advantage that is!
It's always going to be a penny, you can split up everything to within a penny of being even.
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Old 06-28-2004, 09:14 AM #10 (permalink)  
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I've looked into this and I think the person closest to the dealer button gets the extra penny, if one person posted a blind they sometimes recieve there blind back too (stars i think i.e. 10.25 for one 10 for the other)
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Old 06-28-2004, 05:43 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Yeah, closest to the dealer's left gets the extra.
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Old 06-28-2004, 07:42 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Quote:
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The only difference would be if you were playing by some weird variant or weird rules where you had to use both of your hole cards.
fishstick weird variant #1

split pots are an abomination, therefore, if two hands are tied, and fishstick is in the pot, the pot will go to fishstick.

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