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okiman
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03-01-2009, 02:30 AM
Post subject: jumping the gun
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Straight
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 171
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BB was a 12/5/4.5 regular (355 hands). The 2 notes I had on him of relevance were his tendency to push pfr off hands with a check-raise on the flop and a fondness for the min raise. I figured it was a great place to get my money in (and a 4th diamond would likely kill my action anyway), but did I shut out the portion of his range I wanted to call with my gross overbet? My thought process was this might look like I was trying to buy the pot with AdQx and could get called by tp (plus the hands I was behind).
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($13.80)
Hero (UTG+1) ($14.45)
MP1 ($6.60)
MP2 ($25)
CO ($5.25)
Button ($23.10)
SB ($9.80)
BB ($13.60)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with  , 
UTG calls $0.25, Hero bets $1, 5 folds, BB calls $0.75, 1 fold
Flop: ($2.35)  ,  ,  (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB raises to $3, Hero raises to $13.45 (All-In), BB calls $9.60 (All-In)
Turn: ($27.55)  (2 players, 2 all-in)
River: ($27.55)  (2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: $27.55 | Rake: $1.35
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Parasurama
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Full House
Join Date: Nov 2008
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pretty standard imo
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CBAT
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Full House
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NY
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I like it. He already showed strength with his raise.
But a case could be made for calling him.
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wat
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kmind
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Not Giving In
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Ok...
1. Do you think he 3bets AK preflop?
2. I like your thought process and you kind of answered the question but why do you want to raise a bluff with a ton of showdown value?
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okiman
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Straight
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by iopq
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I thought he might mistake my hand for AdQx (or other Ad hands that missed the flop) trying to buy the pot instead of AdAs and thereby be willing to call w/ tp thinking he was ahead.
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okiman
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Straight
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 171
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by kmind
Ok...
1. Do you think he 3bets AK preflop?
2. I like your thought process and you kind of answered the question but why do you want to raise a bluff with a ton of showdown value?
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1) Yes, I'd definitely expect him to 3bet AK preflop especially OOP. Limiting his top pair hands.
2) It was the fact that a good portion of his range here was air and flat calling would allow those hands to keep bluffing that my snap decision missed. I think I got too cute here and could have pushed out some of my hand value. Yes, I might miss some value from top pair/sets/worse flushes if a 4th diamond comes. But I'm blowing out all bluffs. As you point out, at least one of his top pair hands is already out anyway.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pwnsylvania
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this is where pokerstove could save server space 
flop is fairly simple, you have decent equity when behind and a whole bunch of equity when ahead.
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