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Borax
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04-26-2005, 10:53 AM
Post subject: JJ vs. all in preflop
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Flush
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Norway
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0.25/0.5$ NL 10 player,
Would you call an all in raise to your 4xBB preflop bet for your complete stack with JJ when you suspect he only holds AK 
(only one other caller to your first bet)
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Greedo017
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2005
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no. even if he has ak, you're still just barely better than a flip, and the times you're wrong and dominated will more than make this not worth it.
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Borax
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Flush
Join Date: Feb 2005
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ok - thanks 
I was right about AK, but I still folded and let him have my 2$
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arkana
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2005
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If your stack is not that big compared to the current potsize it might be worth it. Depending on how often the player will reraise all in with AK it might be positive EV.
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ender555
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Not in ring.. I don't know about lower limits but JJ is probably the weakest hand you see going all in preflop. Some AK's and AQ's but you don't need to make that mistake. + you will still only win a little bit more than half if it's those, and a lot of the time it won't be those and you will lose.
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ChezJ
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no way dude, toss it fast. same with QQ. i learned that lesson the hard way. burn me once...
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ekillian
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Straight
Join Date: Apr 2005
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If you have a decent bank roll and you pretty much know it's race then, by all means call it. You're a little ahead and you'll be getting 2:1 (a little better most likely with limps/blinds). This is why you gotta play with a stack you can lose.
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DaNutsInYoEye
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4-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
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You're a little ahead and you'll be getting 2:1 (
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Try about 1:1 on for size and see how it fits.
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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FishMagician
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Straight
Join Date: Sep 2004
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The rake eats up any EV you might have making this play, even if he does have AK.
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Greedo017
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Full House
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like i said before, the rake plus the chances that he actually has you dominated more than makes this a bad call. same for QQ. even if you're right 90% of the time that he has AK or worse, that 10% you're wrong make this way -EV.
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Borax
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Flush
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Norway
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thanks guys
I don't like JJ very much. If I raise it preflop I often get in trouble.
Like today:
Dealt JJ and I bet 4xBB and get 3 callers. Flop comes TT6 and one guy bets the pot and one other calls. What do I do? (Read on first better: dangerous player, loose aggressive -hard to read his hands).
I fold because of the second player calling. I smell a set, and I had a bad poker day so far and was playing extra tight, but it turns out first guy is playing a TT66 and the other is just bluffing and end up loosing half his stack to the TT66...So I chicken out to easy with JJ.
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