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nice_aiau

12-09-2008, 04:54 AM Post subject: Interesting spots during introduction to 6max

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Flush

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Got pretty sick of getting coolered by set over sets at full ring. And flushs versus FHs. So thought Id give 6max a go. Things are going well... very well.
running at 35bb/100 over 2.5k.
HEATER.
Anyhow... here are some interesting hands that came up:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Villain 35/24/0.9 over 50hands.
Likes calling 2 barells.

MP ($11.35)
CO ($13.10)
Hero (Button) ($12.90)
SB ($12.80)
BB ($3.05)
UTG ($2.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K

, 7

UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, CO calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold, BB checks

Flop: ($0.45) 9

, K

, 7

(4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.50, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.95) 8

(3 players)
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2

River: ($5.95) 3

(2 players)
CO bets $3, Hero...?

Am I likely to be ahead more often then the odds of calling?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Villain 50/21/1 with a 20% donk bet.
Hero (CO) ($10)
Button ($13.05)
SB ($26.85)
BB ($1.50)
UTG ($5.05)
MP ($10.80)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q

, A

UTG raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.20, 1 fold, SB calls $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.80) 10

, Q

, 7

(4 players)
SB bets $0.30, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.40, SB calls $1.10, 1 fold

Turn: ($3.90) 8

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.80, SB raises to $5.60, [color=#CC3333]Hero fold/shove?

Pretty strong line from a passive postflop player. Can we find a fold here. Obviously calling is not an option.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Villain 48/29/1.2 with a limpcall of 67% over 75 hands
BB ($13.05)
UTG ($2.15)
MP ($13.15)
Hero (Button) ($12.15)
SB ($9.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A

, K

UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.60, 3 folds, MP calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.45) 7

, 3

, 10

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1, MP calls $1

Turn: ($3.45) 6

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2.60, MP calls $2.60

River: ($8.65) 7

(2 players)
MP bets $0.70, [color=#CC3333]Hero?

What type of range do you see doing a 1/10th attempt at a blocking bet? And Will a shove get a fold often enough for it to be profitable.

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Villain 25/20/2 over 74hands
SB ($21.45)
Hero (BB) ($10.90)
UTG ($10)
MP ($30.90)
Button ($7.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

, J

UTG raises to $0.40, 2 folds, SB calls $0.35, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.20) 4

, 8

, 3

(3 players)
SB bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70, UTG raises to $4.10, 1 fold, [color=#CC3333]Hero...?

We shoving all day? Is the call on the flop pretty standard as we expect the aggressor to squeze

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Erpel

12-09-2008, 02:51 PM

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Full House

Join Date: Mar 2008

Posts: 605

Ok, I'm a bit lost in some of these hands, so I guess I should try to come up with an answer myself.

Hand 1)
Pre-flop: I don't hate the pre-flop limp, but I wouldn't hate a fold either. I'd probably fold.
Flop: Value-bet - fine.
Turn: Straights and flushes are complete (and possible holdings). There could be lower two-pair hands or AsXx hands still in there, but I don't mind going for pot control here with a check behind. I don't think I'm ahead often enough for outright value.
River: As played - I think we're behind and I fold. He is clearly expecting a call and he knows there are straights and flushes on the board. Had we checked turn I'd be happy to see a showdown for a bet up to $2.

Hand 2)
Pre-flop: I'd raise to $0.70 here. Even if your caller is UTG that bet size gives a perfect SPR for the kind of hand you are looking to make.
Flop: Fine - the low donk bet could be designed to give himself good odds on continuing with a draw or an otherwise vulnerable hand (mid pair).
Turn: $4.4 has gone in and we have $5.6 behind - it's a commitment decision so we need to decide whether to put in $5.6 more to win a total pot of $20.95 - we need to win 26.7% of the time or more for all-in here to be profitable on showdown alone.
Against a range of TT,77,QTs,Q7s,J9s,T7s,98s,QTo,Q7o,J9o,T7o,98o we have 21.3% equity. The flop bet size indicates that we're more likely to be up against J9 or 98 type hands - and the turn min-bet indicates the opposite (set/two-pair or a J9 hand that hit). Or KJ on flop now that I think of it. If I include KJ in the above range our equity jumps to 33.9%. But I think I can safely discount KJ as the turn min-raise is not at all consistent with that hand. Still, KJ could have become a 'missed draw turned bluff on scare card' hand.
If we include some air and some fold equity in our considerations an all-in move goes to very marginally +EV. And I guess if we're close to 0 EV we want to play because it makes our image worse.

Hand 3)
Pre-flop: Fine
Flop: Flop hits villain range well. I'd consider just taking the free card and maybe improve to beat him for free.
Turn: (as played) time to slow down - no reason to bloat the pot here.
River: (as played) You've shown nothing but strength throughout the hand and still he leads. The question is if it's a "let me get away with a cheap showdown" play or a "oh I'm so weak, raise me so I can crush you" play. Probably the former, and in a sense this play is more weak than just checking. Despite that I'm not sure there is a bet size he's folding. I think it's weak in a sense that he'd hate to have to call another bet - but would call it anyway thinking it a poor play. I would not be surprised to see the villain show up with T9 or something similar. On the river as played I'd call the weak lead and expect to lose almost always. If you want to try to blow him off his TPWK hand I think a bet around $5 is as likely as any to succeed.

Hand 4)
Pre-flop: I don't mind a call - I also don't mind a squeeze.
Flop: SB is donking - either drawing to a worse flush or on a set. Overpairs should bet a bit bigger but not impossible. UTG plays like he has a strong overpair like QQ-KK maybe with a spade for a backdoor draw for added equity. The raise size is only an overbet by $0.10. If you're up against exactly KsKx, QsQx (blockers) you have 43.5% equity. That's pretty exactly the amount of time we need to win for calling an all-in to be profitable. Add in the chance that UTG is on a bluff and shoving all-in is clearly profitable.
The flop call I'm ok with not because I expect a squeeze, but because the hand I'm looking to make (a flush) is likely to be best multiway - with more people in the hand I'd just get more value out of it. That said, raising here is also not wrong.

a500lbgorilla

12-09-2008, 03:26 PM

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Hand 1) he's got a flush 100% and it's likely the nut flush.
Hand 2) he's trying to stack you.
Hand 3) Don't cbet that flop. It's not horrible since you have the A

but definitely don't double barrel that turn. You can call the river just to see what the other guy has, I guess. You could try to bluff, i guess. But I would fold.
Hand 4) We expect the aggressor to squeeze?

Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.

nice_aiau

12-09-2008, 07:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

We expect the aggressor to squeeze?

Squeeze isn't the right word, but I expect his UTG range(hes at like 8% pfr from ep) to be betting at the flop after two callers.

a500lbgorilla

12-09-2008, 07:13 PM

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which is a squeeze. I would expect him to squeeze for value and never fold to a shove.

Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.

12-09-2008, 11:28 PM

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hand 1 this is always for value since he donked on the river
there is only ONE hand that will play this way that we're ahead of and that is K3
which is so unlikely it's not even funny
hand 2 I check the turn behind and fold as played
hand 3 don't cbet low flops since that's just expecting people to give you credit for TT+ which they won't
I call the river for metagame because losing the pot once to a 1/10 pot bet would be retarded. Always raising 1/10 pot bets is also retarded
hand 4 probably shove vs. me, but don't against most people since most people don't squeeze with air in this spot

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