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Lonny
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03-09-2008, 05:30 PM
Post subject: Instant fold on micro stakes or...
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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Is the river bet an instant fold on microstakes because they Always have flush when they bet like this or was my call ok?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($4.86)
UTG+1 ($5.32)
MP1 ($2.82)
MP2 ($4.08)
Hero ($5.52)
CO ($5.06)
Button ($3.35)
SB ($4.23)
BB ($3.43)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 7 , 7 .
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, CO calls $0.08, 2 folds, BB calls $0.06.
Flop: ($0.25) Q, 6 , J (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.18, CO folds, BB calls $0.18.
Turn: ($0.61) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.
River: ($0.61) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $1.06, Hero calls $1.06.
Final Pot: $2.73
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dev
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4-of-a-Kind
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We really need some kind of read here. Some of those guys will be calling on a str8 draw and bluffing the missed river. Without a good read this is a fold. He's betting almost twice the pot. We can find a better spot.
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Lonny
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 51
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I thought so and I would never have called if it was not because I hit my set at that river 
I did not have any reads, so I should have foldet here
Kind regards and have a nice day
Lonny
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Chopper
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Straight Flush
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5NL? i am RARELY, if ever, dropping a set. i dont care when i hit it. easy call. maybe a raise was in order, but i doubt it.
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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Lonny
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 51
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So now I am confused 
But if I did have a read and the person was a passiv calling station, it would be a clear fold, right?
onny
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Unibomber14
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When he checks the turn I probably 2nd barrel here.
As played, his line suggests busted draw, or 2pr to me.
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Lonny
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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He had the nut flush
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bode
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by Chopper
5NL? i am RARELY, if ever, dropping a set. i dont care when i hit it. easy call. maybe a raise was in order, but i doubt it.
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chopper this is really bad advice. you have to be good here, what, like 60% of the time? villain MAY show up with a busted straight draw or QJ sometimes but he has the flush and is overbetting because he missed his turn c/r.
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eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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jyms
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No hand we beat calls a raise. When checking the turn, you going to call any reasonable bet. You played this fine, and any Q, Ad or even TT is going to stab. betting the turn folds out a ton of hands we beat.
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bode
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms
No hand we beat calls a raise. When checking the turn, you going to call any reasonable bet. You played this fine, and any Q, Ad or even TT is going to stab. betting the turn folds out a ton of hands we beat.
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im calling a reasonable bet all day here, but what about the overbet? pretty much a missed c/r all day right?
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eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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Warpe
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move decimal points two places and the river becomes a fold.
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jyms
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Tilting Mod
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absolutely
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pgil
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opp could easily have QJ and think it's the nuts, so he missed his CR on the turn and tries to make up for the lost value by overbetting the river. Or he could have just had an aneurysm and this is the result, you never can tell at micros. Not often enough to fold a set anyways.
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bode
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by pgil
opp could easily have QJ and think it's the nuts, so he missed his CR on the turn and tries to make up for the lost value by overbetting the river. Or he could have just had an aneurysm and this is the result, you never can tell at micros. Not often enough to fold a set anyways.
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you guys are right. my initial thought was that he would raise QJ on this flop since its pretty draw heavy, but im overthinking it because, well, its micros.
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eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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Lonny
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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So all in all it was an ok call  ) Thanks
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MuddyWicket
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having just left this stake I think calling with no reads was not so good. They love their flush draws. I'm not saying I would have folded this but I think the important thing is lack of reads. We have only put 26cents into the pot and have no need to call an over bet. Defaulting to fold without reads is not that bad imo as there are plenty of other spew monkeys to dance with.
One other thing is if they are over betting with trash it wont be the only time nor will it be the last, find a better spot to clean them out and stack them.
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