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Old 09-08-2006, 07:25 PM     Post subject: Implied odds vs rock !!! #1 (permalink)  

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I have a question about implied odds vs rock.

Say you are playing vs a rock that is tight and very passive.
This person raises before the flop early position.
You put them on AK, AQ, AA, KK, QQ, JJ.
You are like 95% sure they have one of those six starting hands cuz you have been watching them.

Now you have 77 on the button and everybody folds and you call say 4 BB.

The flop is T 7 3 with no flush draw.

Is it really worth it, or should you be calling moslty vs TAGs and LAGs ???

Many times these people are so conservative that you are lucky to even half stack em.

Any thoughts here. Thanks.
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Old 09-08-2006, 07:31 PM #2 (permalink)  
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If he really is a rock he's probably betting half the pot or more into you on the turn given those circumstances (except with the AQ or possibly, depending on how rocky he is, the AK). If you substantially reraise him he will fold. I reraise anyway 'cuz any significant chips you can get from a rock are hard earned.
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Old 09-08-2006, 09:32 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 ***** Hand History for Game 5080837108 *****
$400 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, September 01, 20:32:57 ET 2006
Table Monster #1277271 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 6: pmarco805111 ( $683.95 )
Seat 4: Beelzeboz0 ( $410.90 )
Seat 1: Marshall61 ( $646.06 )
Seat 8: Junebug1979 ( $475.40 )
Seat 9: JAYSCHIPPS ( $171.78 )
Seat 3: JLike33 ( $121.55 )
Seat 2: cwhokie ( $636.29 )
Seat 10: irish_elvis ( $335.36 )
Seat 5: mayUNIT29 ( $429.50 )
Seat 7: Gubben111 ( $218.90 )
mayUNIT29 posts small blind [$2].
pmarco805111 posts big blind [$4].

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Beelzeboz0 [ 5h 5d ]

Gubben111 folds.
Junebug1979 folds.
JAYSCHIPPS folds.
irish_elvis calls [$4].
Marshall61 folds.
JLike33 folds.
Beelzeboz0 calls [$4].
mayUNIT29 folds.
pmarco805111 raises [$16].
irish_elvis calls [$16].
Beelzeboz0 calls [$16].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, 9h, 2d ]

pmarco805111 bets [$40].
irish_elvis folds.
Beelzeboz0 calls [$40].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]

pmarco805111 bets [$125].
Beelzeboz0 is all-In.
pmarco805111: 99
pmarco805111: suck out
pmarco805111 folds.

Beelzeboz0 shows [ 5h, 5d ] a pair of fives.

Beelzeboz0 wins $614.40 from the main pot with a pair of fives.
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Old 09-08-2006, 10:29 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Renton
***** Hand History for Game 5080837108 *****
$400 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, September 01, 20:32:57 ET 2006
Table Monster #1277271 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 6: pmarco805111 ( $683.95 )
Seat 4: Beelzeboz0 ( $410.90 )
Seat 1: Marshall61 ( $646.06 )
Seat 8: Junebug1979 ( $475.40 )
Seat 9: JAYSCHIPPS ( $171.78 )
Seat 3: JLike33 ( $121.55 )
Seat 2: cwhokie ( $636.29 )
Seat 10: irish_elvis ( $335.36 )
Seat 5: mayUNIT29 ( $429.50 )
Seat 7: Gubben111 ( $218.90 )
mayUNIT29 posts small blind [$2].
pmarco805111 posts big blind [$4].

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Beelzeboz0 [ 5h 5d ]

Gubben111 folds.
Junebug1979 folds.
JAYSCHIPPS folds.
irish_elvis calls [$4].
Marshall61 folds.
JLike33 folds.
Beelzeboz0 calls [$4].
mayUNIT29 folds.
pmarco805111 raises [$16].
irish_elvis calls [$16].
Beelzeboz0 calls [$16].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, 9h, 2d ]

pmarco805111 bets [$40].
irish_elvis folds.
Beelzeboz0 calls [$40].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]

pmarco805111 bets [$125].
Beelzeboz0 is all-In.
pmarco805111: 99
pmarco805111: suck out
pmarco805111 folds.

Beelzeboz0 shows [ 5h, 5d ] a pair of fives.

Beelzeboz0 wins $614.40 from the main pot with a pair of fives.
Very very nice play renton...
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Old 09-08-2006, 11:20 PM #6 (permalink)  
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nh Renton. I'm curious, was it a HUD read or a "real" one? If the former, what were his stats?
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Old 09-09-2006, 03:48 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 the hud read was that villain was a solid tag regular. I simply knew that most solid tag regs would fold overpairs there.
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