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GHOST 24 7
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10-24-2008, 11:19 PM
Post subject: Im super hot just lost $600
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: california
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Well I always come to this site and look @ tips for one I play $2 $5 live poker games I win and lose but lately I lost the last 3 times I played there one thing I can tell u that betting 3bb knowone ever folds and when I have a good hand I bet 5bb and everyone folds bluffing is not in my game yet I rarely bluff unless im on some kind of draw my question here is why am I losing consistently I play aggressive most of the time but the buy in is so low max 300 how would u guys play this table or wut books or tips should I look into I study the game a lot and its not paying off
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jyms
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here's a couple of mine, you can borrow them until you get yours fixed.
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Stacks
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How do you study the game?
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GHOST 24 7
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
How do you study the game?
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Lots of online reading and videos and by playing the game
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Stacks
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4-of-a-Kind
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What do you know about variance?
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That's two buy-ins
don't whine
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GHOST 24 7
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
What do you know about variance?
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Nothing im a new player been playing for 8months
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I've lost $600 playing 1/2 and 0.50/1 LIMIT
surely at 2/5 NL this loss must be inconsequential
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GHOST 24 7
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Also I have a problem with poker players who don't play by poker rules taggs and laggs I can read its the people who play wild I have a problem with when I say wild I mean all over the place not raising with ace king 3 or 4 times by 3 difrrent people and I seen pocket rockets on the button no raise this type of poker game really messes my head up
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donkbee
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If you cannot handle losing $600, do not play those stakes.
You need to keep track of how people to play and who does what. Keep track of the players who are limping with the premiums and the ones who are raising with anything. Keep track of the players who only bet with the nuts and those who will call with marginal hands. You should know which players will fold to c bets and double barrels and which ones won't. etc etc etc ... You're only playing one table and the hands are super slow, so use this extra time to bank information and put people on ranges when you're not in a hand.
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Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.
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GHOST 24 7
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Originally Posted by iopq
That's two buy-ins
don't whine
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This is not a whine thread im just looking for more information regarding books and how I should play these saps who don't play by poker rules even though there are no rules there's a good way to play and a bad play I watch and follow a lot of poker greats I don't have the resources some people do as far as knowing really good players that will give me advice to better my self that's why im on this site I been a pro gambler for awhile now just not in poker im learning the game just like u all and I want to learn from my mistakes but I also do good vs these weak players just not today and 600 is only 2 buy ins but I've yet to lose this amount of money playin poker period I win consistent just not the past two weeks but I also don't play everyday and im only want to take my game to the next level in about 1 to 2 years hopefully ill be writing my own book
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GHOST 24 7
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Originally Posted by courtiebee
If you cannot handle losing $600, do not play those stakes.
You need to keep track of how people to play and who does what. Keep track of the players who are limping with the premiums and the ones who are raising with anything. Keep track of the players who only bet with the nuts and those who will call with marginal hands. You should know which players will fold to c bets and double barrels and which ones won't. etc etc etc ... You're only playing one table and the hands are super slow, so use this extra time to bank information and put people on ranges when you're not in a hand.
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Thanks for the info when I sit @ a table I need to be focus on the table and how hands are played and bank information knowing my opponents are key essential to winning but at my casino there are no lower stakes in no limit holdem and its not about the $600 its about losing period that's why I created this post cuz I have yet to read any books becuz I heard those books are not for lower stakes like $2 $5 no limit but then again the people I follow are the best of there peers cuz a lot of my info I get is by watching youtube videos I was just wondering if people had any good book titles I can go out and buy
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http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...re-t36037.html
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wellrounded08
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Originally Posted by iopq
That's two buy-ins
don't whine
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NO. NNNNNOO. bad iopq, bad.
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Originally Posted by iopq
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/forum/beginners-digest-learning-starts-here-t36037.html
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Good boy.
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martindcx1e
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10-25-2008, 01:41 PM
Post subject: Re: Im super hot just lost $600
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by GHOST 24 7
but lately I lost the last 3 times I played there
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3 live sessions is how many hands? 500-800 hands or something? to lose 120bb's in 800 hands is no big deal whatsoever. it's pretty normal actually.
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Originally Posted by GHOST 24 7
one thing I can tell u that betting 3bb knowone ever folds
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most live games require a much larger pfr than 3bb's to narrow the field.
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bluffing is not in my game yet I rarely bluff
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you don't say
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why am I losing consistently
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like i said in reality 3 live sessions is not very many hands. you could be playing great and break even over thousands of hands. the downswings just "feel" worse in live poker (compared to online) because the hands played per hour is so much lower.
losing 120bb's is not a reason to panic and overhaul your game.
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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.
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jolub
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I can't give you the same top quality advice the others have given you. However, I think you're making a step in the right direction questioning why you are losing and taking a closer look at your game.
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kb coolman
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Are you playing outside your bankroll? 2/5 NL is pretty tough stakes for a new player. There are a ton of grinders who regularly play 2/5 live. You are probably way in over your head, which is contributing to your frustration. These players know they have you flustered.
Assumming 100BB buyin, you need $500 to sit at that table. According to rillas BR managament, you would need AT LEAST $5000. Realistically, you need $7500 or $10000 so you have 15-20 buyins for that level. When you look at it that way, $600 is nothing much...simple variance. You can and will loose buyins, no matter how good you are. Poker is a real sucky short term game that way.
Stick to online for now. If you've been playing 8 months, you should really be perfecting strategy at $50NL and lower.
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GHOST 24 7
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Originally Posted by kb coolman
Are you playing outside your bankroll? 2/5 NL is pretty tough stakes for a new player. There are a ton of grinders who regularly play 2/5 live. You are probably way in over your head, which is contributing to your frustration. These players know they have you flustered.
Assumming 100BB buyin, you need $500 to sit at that table. According to rillas BR managament, you would need AT LEAST $5000. Realistically, you need $7500 or $10000 so you have 15-20 buyins for that level. When you look at it that way, $600 is nothing much...simple variance. You can and will loose buyins, no matter how good you are. Poker is a real sucky short term game that way.
Stick to online for now. If you've been playing 8 months, you should really be perfecting strategy at $50NL and lower.
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Yeah u can't buy in for nothing more then 300 this is live poker not online and yes I have only been playing for 8 months but I play really good for the little time I been playing im really good I win way more then I lose I win consistently its just the last time I lost big ckuz I rarely lose anything over a 100 dollars
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martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by GHOST 24 7
Yeah u can't buy in for nothing more then 300 this is live poker not online and yes I have only been playing for 8 months but I play really good for the little time I been playing im really good I win way more then I lose I win consistently its just the last time I lost big ckuz I rarely lose anything over a 100 dollars
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obviously you can't always win. if you play good and are a consistent winner then don't freak out if you have a few losing sessions. you will have many more losing sessions in the future. you will have downswings. don't worry about it.
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Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.
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