Originally Posted by Miffed22001

it really could just be a period of variance.

Originally Posted by LeFou

Your AK losses are surprising, and the low profitability on the button. Check your AK hands and see how many went to showdown with only a pair. Are you stealing enough in position?

I just went from 25 to 50NL as well, with similar lukewarm results... wanna try the buddy system?

Originally Posted by mb2447

there are some junk hands in your top ten losers - try to fold more of those preflop.

Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

folding 85s 86s, 74s, KJs, J6s preflop will be easy. A8s you just have to make sure to not call raises with it and play only for two pair, trip 8's, or flush.

Originally Posted by Jay67s

Check out your big loss hands, review each of them, Could you have gotten away from them sooner? NL holdem is about big hands. If you got stacked in 3 hands where you could have gotten away from your hand sooner, this will effect your bb/100 a great deal.

IMHP post flop play is more important than pre flop.

Originally Posted by fjuanl

raise preflop a little more? its always good to be the one in control of the hand

Originally Posted by givememyleg

Buddy system? Like collusion? HELL YES!

Originally Posted by LeFou

No I mean we just bounce ideas & HH analysis off each other, silly rabbit

Originally Posted by Rockymv

I bet it's just variance. Keep playing.

However, one thing to keep in mind, and one thing that I need to work on, involves not giving low limit players to much credit. Lately I've noticed that I've been doing things like thinking I have way more fold equity than I actually do. Don't overthink things too much; I guarantee you your opponents aren't thinking too hard.

Originally Posted by vqc

i have pretty much no experience in these matters so I dont kno how i can contribute to this discussion.
HOwever, doesnt it seem odd to you that you are winning the LEAST amount of money from the button?

how is it that your Raise First in % is less from the button than you are from the CO, or from any other position for that matter?

try playing 6 max and work on ur position playing?
try playing increasing VPIP to work on postflop play?

Originally Posted by Renton

Don't be afraid to check the flop after raising preflop. Sometimes its just the right play, even heads up. Thats probably where a lot of your chips are going.

C-betting is an overrated play and is very easy to overuse. Just do it enough to instill doubt in your opponents (e.g. to have a flop agg of at least 35-40%). If you don't think they are folding 50% of the time, then don't even bet.

Originally Posted by biondino

If you and LeFou fancy chatting to me, I'm at about the same level I think and I'd really enjoy and appreciate it - my aim is markelby if you'd like to add me. My FR stats are roughly 20/10 so maybe I could help you loosen up a little.

Comments: You are playing too few hands and you're playing them too passively. You say that you're playing 25 and 50 the same but your 50 VP is a huge 5% lower - barely 2/3 of the hands you're playing at 25. Can I ask if this is because you're too nervous of having hands you'd otherwise have limped at 25 - Axs, AJ utg, 67s in MP, 8To in the CO etc. - raised at 50? That's also happened to me - in full ring my $50 stats are about 16% VP instead of 19-20% at £25.

However, even if you are only playing 13-14% at $50, a good 8-9% plus should be being raised - with a 5% VPFR you're controlling too few pots and you'll be losing value to aware players who know you only raise AQ+ and TT+ (with maybe a small allowance fot the button).

Originally Posted by Lukie

I'll go through the rest later, but after seeing the tip of the iceberg, you need to raise more hands preflop. You're missing out on a lot of value by raising only 6% of your hands preflop. 16/10-12ish would look much better then 16/6.

Originally Posted by benny999

Alright this is a bit long, but I had a similar experience recently - my biggest ever downswing last june, but I managed to turn around in july and august to probably my biggest ever upswing. I was doing great in june at first, then figured I'd open more tables, and started 8 tabling. kaboom...went on a downswing and ended up break even for 20k hands that month, kind of like what is going on with you.

So I took time off from playing, and looked at hands that involved big pots and other hands I saved in a big text file as questionable and analyzed how I could play them better, and posted the harder ones here. Besides that, I started single-tabling HU to 5max at only the juiciest table. Having 8 times the time for every decision, more action with the big fishes, and position more (which I learned to use better) let me play better pre and post flop. Of course I'm playing more then 1 table again, but this was a big reason (besides less bad beats and more good cards) for turning from .1 ptbb/100 for those 20k hands in june to 16+ptbb/100 for the last 11k hands at 50 and 100nl in july/august. I know that probably isn't sustainable long term, but my point is that table selectoin, learning stuff from FTR and my hand histories, and thinking more about what I'm doing has been huge.

So I am basically saying what's already posted, to cut down and be more selective on tables, play short handed and steal/build pots pre flop more in position, and work on your entire game from a fresh start and open mind. Take some time to focus on every decision, eg not just auto c-betting or auto raising a draw. Find the fish who love to call overbet/big-pot "bluffs" :Wink:

Originally Posted by topgogo

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