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Danh Bai
Old 07-20-2008, 01:41 PM     Post subject: Was I wrongto go 'all in' here? #1 (permalink)  
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I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but since I'm pretty much a beginner I'm posting here...

Ok, live game. Playing all day, tight and aggressive, won some nice pots and up to 4x my buy in, come to last hand of the day:

5 players

Blinds are .1 and .25
Player 1 calls
Player 2 calls
Dealer raises $1
Hero in Sb calls (w/ 7,8o)
Bb folds
Player 1 calls
Player 2 calls

Flop: 3s 7c 7s

Hero goes all in (have about $40 in chips)
P1 (with about $20) folds
P2 is shortstack and calls all in for $5
Dealer calls (with $25)

Was this a ridiculous bet on my part considering my hand, the flop, position, and size of the pot?

Btw, Dealer is a loose aggressive player, plays a lot of hands and nearly always raises pre-flop.

How would you have played this hand? Result in white:

Villain had As 4s for an ace high flush to take pot
to be honest I didn't even consider the flush possiblility when I went all-in
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Old 07-20-2008, 01:45 PM #2 (permalink)  
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fold preflop, as you will be out of position for the rest of the hand with a weak holding.
once you call, a c/raise all in makes more sense to me, but you're definitely getting all your chips in with that flop.
If you run into someone with a better 7 or 33, thats the breaks.
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Old 07-20-2008, 03:26 PM #3 (permalink)  
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You bet so much when you flopped good that only better hands can really call here, unless someone has AA/KK and can't fold it.

Just bet like 3/4 pot and try to get it in on this street other streets if raised/called, open shoving is pretty terrible.
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Old 07-20-2008, 05:22 PM #4 (permalink)  
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how would you have played it in hindsight?

Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
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Old 07-21-2008, 12:47 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Well in hindsight I guess I would...

Make a pot sized bet (about $5)
Dealer would have probably called
Turn comes club
I'd have been worried about 2 clubs and two spades and bet 3/4's of the pot, so about 15$
Dealer would have called
River comes 3rd spade
I don't know what to do check? This is where position kills me
At this point he'd know doubt move all-in.
I'd like to think that at that point I'd see my 3 of a kind had shriveled up and save my remaining chips. In reality I still might have put him on a bluff, as I had many times that day where i wanted to call but had nothing, so this time i still might have called.

The other way I looked at it was this: This guy was going to call any bet I made, so the best thing for me to do was make him pay the maximum price to try and make his draw. If we did it 10 times I'd win 7 of them, so I made him pay way over the odds really.

With my lack of experience I'm really not sure.
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Old 07-21-2008, 01:01 PM #6 (permalink)  
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You bet so much when you flopped good that only better hands can really call here, unless someone has AA/KK and can't fold it.

Just bet like 3/4 pot and try to get it in on this street other streets if raised/called, open shoving is pretty terrible.
Actually this makes a lot sense to me though, because if nobody had anything they'd have folded and I'd have won a small pot. If I had bet it aggressively but slower and he missed his draw I'd have won a bigger pot.
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:15 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 You can really only make that play when you have flopped a monster, and the other players should realize that. If they don't then, well - you can't argue with success. But sooner or later they will, and you will have to develop a more refined strategy. Usually I would check here, expecting the initial raiser to bet, and then either raise, or if it's heads-up I might play it like a draw. More likely I would c/r it like a draw.
But really the best move would be to fold it preflop. I would play that hand - sometimes even against a raise on the button, but never from the blinds.
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:24 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I would play that hand - sometimes even against a raise on the button, but never from the blinds.
i understand why the fold preflop, could you elaborate a wee bit why you would play that hand in another position after a raise from button?
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