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Old 06-02-2009, 06:38 AM     Post subject: Was I too aggressive in position here? 25NL #1 (permalink)  
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 Didn't have much read on the donk, thought I could take him off his hand, each street I bet it took him forever to call so I thought he was a lot weaker than what he showed down. Plus, he just flats pre.

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SB ($21.20)
BB ($24.55)
UTG ($38.10)
MP1 ($5)
MP2 ($42.70)
Hero (CO) ($31.65)
Button ($23.55)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 10, K
4 folds, Hero bets $0.75, Button calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.75) 6, 4, A (2 players)
Button bets $1.25, Hero raises to $3.75, Button calls $2.50

Turn: ($9.25) 7 (2 players)
Button checks, Hero bets $5, Button calls $5

River: ($19.25) 10 (2 players)
Button checks, Hero bets $7, Button calls $7

Total pot: $33.25 | Rake: $1.60

Results in white below:
Button had K, A (one pair, Aces).
Hero had 10, K (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Button won $31.65
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Old 06-02-2009, 06:44 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 I don't know why the HH says he was in the button? Because he was in the SB, not on the button btw.
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Old 06-02-2009, 07:02 AM #3 (permalink)  
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just give up after the flop he's clearly got an ace he's not folding, and please check behind river after gaining some showdown value
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Old 06-02-2009, 07:11 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 Ty, yeah I am still wet behind the ears when it comes to cash games, so I appreciate the feedback.
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Old 06-02-2009, 01:41 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 What are you trying to make him fold on the turn after he called your minraise on the flop?
Are you betting the river for value or as a bluff? - Either way: what are you trying to make him fold / call with?

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Old 06-02-2009, 02:59 PM #6 (permalink)  
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just give up after the flop he's clearly got an ace he's not folding, and please check behind river after gaining some showdown value
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Old 06-02-2009, 04:17 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 Fold flop to his initial donk. This is a horrible board for you to raise the flop with, especially 100% of the time.
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Old 06-02-2009, 04:59 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I agree 100% you're beat 90% of the time based on ace on the flop.
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Old 06-02-2009, 05:31 PM #9 (permalink)  
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your river bet doesnt make any sense
tell yourself,what can he continue with till river?
better yet,his turn range?
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:18 AM #10 (permalink)  
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once he calls flop he has told you has a draw or an ace and will not be folding turn. bail on the hand plz
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:28 AM #11 (permalink)  
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once he calls flop he has told you has a draw or an ace and will not be folding turn. bail on the hand plz
This, give up and check the turn behind and on the river please just check it back as you have some showdown value.

Any bet on the river is a bluff here, as nothing worse will call.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:12 AM #12 (permalink)  
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 Thanks for all the feedback guys, truth be told not alot of thought was put into the hand, just as single-minded thought: "I think I can get this guy off his hand", but no further thought process after that for some reason
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:14 AM #13 (permalink)  
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Thanks for all the feedback guys, truth be told not alot of thought was put into the hand, just as single-minded thought: "I think I can get this guy off his hand", but no further thought process after that for some reason

well that is your problem, bigger than anything in this hand
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:48 AM #14 (permalink)  
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Thanks for all the feedback guys, truth be told not alot of thought was put into the hand, just as single-minded thought: "I think I can get this guy off his hand", but no further thought process after that for some reason

well that is your problem, bigger than anything in this hand
Yep, for the most part of my poker career I've been a gut player, started playing live then transitioned to online. What I am trying to accomplish is having a complete thought process (instead a feel) during the entire hand from start to end.

I feel like I have to learn the game all over as I transition to cash from tournaments, it's a weird feeling.
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Old 06-03-2009, 02:13 AM #15 (permalink)  
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Cash games highlight people's hand reading skills far more than tournaments.

With each hand, ask:
"What is villains range from this position"
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"Why is he betting this amount, or checking. What part of his range does this and why?"
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