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Old 05-18-2009, 05:02 PM     Post subject: I think this should have been a call? #1 (permalink)  
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 This is more of an odds/implied odds question. Unfortionately I am not fast enough with my math to work through these in real time and was really trying to but ran out of time. I was thinking I was getting almost 4:1 (call $1 to win $3.89) and then if I factor in the implied odds that BB may come along as well it should have been a snap call? Amirite if I figure I have 8 outs (6's & J's)?

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UTG dAhOrNnN ($10.00)
UTG+1 Tiler 2707 ($8.15)
MP1 Pone81 ($9.00)
MP2 nicoleholi ($9.50)
CO ldddg ($20.95)
BTN Hero ($10.00)
SB str8 1080p ($10.00)
BB lummox1337 ($10.20)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 8 players) Hero is BTN
1 fold, Tiler 2707 calls $0.10, Pone81 calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold, lummox1337 checks

Flop: ($0.45, 4 players)
lummox1337 checks, Tiler 2707 checks, Pone81 checks, Hero bets $0.40, lummox1337 calls $0.40, Tiler 2707 raises to $0.80, Pone81 folds, Hero calls $0.40, lummox1337 calls $0.40

Turn: ($2.85, 3 players)
lummox1337 checks, Tiler 2707 bets $1, Hero ??
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Old 05-19-2009, 01:14 AM #2 (permalink)  
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yeah call, tiler looks like he has a strong hand which is why he's betting so small
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Old 05-19-2009, 01:32 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 Definitely call.
A 6 doesn't have awesome implied odds, but you're very likely getting another bet out of someone with when a J comes... there's a small chance they have some stupid hand, and you might win with a 9 or T - unlikely, but it happens.
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Old 05-19-2009, 01:50 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I'd call. You've got position, a good draw and a bettor that will probably pay you off if you hit. But I agree a 6 probably kills your action.
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Old 05-19-2009, 01:53 PM #5 (permalink)  

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I'm calling here. You have almost 4 to 1 in pot odds. Your OESD is about 5 to 1, but your implied odds will make that up. I think it is a profitable call.
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Old 05-19-2009, 05:45 PM #6 (permalink)  
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yeah easy call.

What I don't think I like is the bet. The reason you bet with a draw is FE plus the opportunity to get a free card on the turn. with one player it's a good play, with a ton of players... not so much... Check out, pray for free card
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yeah thats an easy call for me
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Old 05-23-2009, 12:55 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 However I must say I admire just the ability to fold there when you know it's at worst barely -EV. That shows some discipline that I for one don't have.
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