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Old 10-20-2005, 07:07 AM     Post subject: i think i should've made more money #1 (permalink)  
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FullTiltPoker Game #257204145: Table Nevada (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:52:44 ET - 2005/10/18
Seat 1: DIESELCOLADA ($21.90)
Seat 2: mthompson80 ($155.55)
Seat 3: NoSuckOut4U ($15)
Seat 4: gwt ($0), is sitting out
Seat 5: gambler1978 ($59.60)
Seat 6: xX zorrito Xx ($51.85)
xX zorrito Xx posts the small blind of $0.50
gwt stands up
DIESELCOLADA posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to xX zorrito Xx [6c 6d]
mthompson80 calls $1
NoSuckOut4U folds
gambler1978 folds
xX zorrito Xx calls $0.50
DIESELCOLADA checks
*** FLOP *** [Td 6s 4s]
xX zorrito Xx checks
DIESELCOLADA bets $1
mthompson80 calls $1
xX zorrito Xx calls $1
*** TURN *** [Td 6s 4s] [5c]
xX zorrito Xx checks
DIESELCOLADA bets $2
mthompson80 calls $2
xX zorrito Xx raises to $4
DIESELCOLADA calls $2
mthompson80 calls $2
*** RIVER *** [Td 6s 4s 5c] [6h]
xX zorrito Xx checks
DIESELCOLADA checks
mthompson80 checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
xX zorrito Xx shows [6c 6d] (four of a kind, Sixes)
DIESELCOLADA mucks
xX zorrito Xx: damn
xX zorrito Xx: you guys
mthompson80 mucks
xX zorrito Xx wins the pot ($17.10) with four of a kind, Sixes
xX zorrito Xx: you're supposed to bet
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $18 | Rake $0.90
Board: [Td 6s 4s 5c 6h]
Seat 1: DIESELCOLADA (big blind) mucked [5s 7c] - two pair, Sixes and Fives
Seat 2: mthompson80 mucked [Js Qs] - a pair of Sixes
Seat 3: NoSuckOut4U didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: gwt is sitting out
Seat 5: gambler1978 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: xX zorrito Xx (small blind) showed [6c 6d] and won ($17.10) with four of a kind, Sixes


i feel like i should've defenitely made more money for this hand... any feed back?..
 
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Old 10-20-2005, 07:14 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Don't minraise the turn, give them a real reraise...minraises are so worthless. Don't check the river, ever.
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Why do you think your opps are "supposed" to bet the river?

Judging by the betting, your opponents are drawing. Make them pay to chase; you can get more milage out of the turn.

Don't check the river. If your opponents are drawing they've missed whatever they were drawing to. Worst that happens is that they fold; you don't have to show down unless you really want to show your quad-six love pack. If they raise, you know what to do...

There is also a side point to be made: your opponents are drawing! What would you have done if a third spade came on the river? Getting money out of drawing opponents is fine but don't forget that your set on this board is by no means invincible.
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Old 10-21-2005, 01:54 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Raise the flop after you check and they bet.

Raise the turn HARDER

Bet the river. What are you doing checking here? You already check-raised once; do you really think you'll be able to do it twice.

And unless this was some sort of wierd limit game (which doesn't belong in this forum), I don't know why you bet so little when you did bet. You're not destroying odds for anyone; in fact, you're giving them great odds to go ahead and chase and then destack you if they hit.

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Old 10-21-2005, 06:18 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Why do you think your opps are "supposed" to bet the river?

Judging by the betting, your opponents are drawing. Make them pay to chase; you can get more milage out of the turn.

Don't check the river. If your opponents are drawing they've missed whatever they were drawing to. Worst that happens is that they fold; you don't have to show down unless you really want to show your quad-six love pack. If they raise, you know what to do...

There is also a side point to be made: your opponents are drawing! What would you have done if a third spade came on the river? Getting money out of drawing opponents is fine but don't forget that your set on this board is by no means invincible.
how much do you think the raise should have been on the flop or on the turn?..
 
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Old 10-21-2005, 07:14 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Raise the flop to 3$

Lead out on the turn 6-7$

Never check the river with the nuts without an astounding read.
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Old 10-21-2005, 07:23 PM #7 (permalink)  
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when you are first to act on the river and you showed strength on the turn you cant expect they are just going to bet, you have to bet here unless you have seen them bluff on the river when they miss a lot.
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Old 10-21-2005, 09:06 PM #8 (permalink)  
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u know how u can make a lot of money....buying jalopies and reselling them to suckers.
 
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Old 10-22-2005, 03:23 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Raise the flop to 3$

Lead out on the turn 6-7$

Never check the river with the nuts without an astounding read.
ive check-raised allin on the river 3 times in the past two days with the nuts.
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Old 10-22-2005, 04:48 AM #10 (permalink)  
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ive check-raised allin on the river 3 times in the past two days with the nuts.
I bet it wasn't after you check-rasied the turn.
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Old 10-22-2005, 08:11 AM #11 (permalink)  
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Raise the flop to 3$

Lead out on the turn 6-7$

Never check the river with the nuts without an astounding read.
What would you lead out with on the river in this case? Value bet? $12?
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