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Old 02-26-2009, 04:46 AM     Post subject: I suck with QQ #1 (permalink)  

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Hand #1

Villain in this hand seems kinda aggro, but I have no meaningful stats on him, as I had only been at the table for a couple orbits.

I think a should've 4bet this pre, but what do I do if I get shoved on. 4bet/folding QQ kinda seems like burning money, but is this an ok line 200bb deep?

Flop I'm really unsure on as to what the best line is. I think QQ is well ahead of his cbetting range on the flop, but im unsure about this flop raise since he's probably only continuing with 99-AA after I raise him, which QQ doesn't have good equity against.

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CO ($24.30)
Button ($30.10)
SB ($171.90)
BB ($27.85)
UTG ($139.50)
Hero (MP) ($53.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q, Q
1 fold, Hero bets $1, 2 folds, SB raises $2.90, 1 fold, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.25) 9, 4, 10 (2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero raises $10.50, SB raises $26

Total pot: $27.25

Hand #2

Villain in this hand is a 50/5 fish. He called me down on three streets in a previous hand this session with A6 on an A-high board.

He's likely peeling the flop with any pair, any draw, and probably any two overcards. Turn card sucks, but I think I still get paid by Jx and maybe random straight draws. What do you guys think?

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Button ($12.95)
SB ($31.30)
BB ($32.25)
Hero (UTG) ($29.75)
MP ($27.45)
CO ($28.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q
Hero bets $1, 2 folds, Button calls $1, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold

Flop: ($3.25) 9, J, 7 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, Button calls $3, 1 fold

Turn: ($9.25) K (2 players)
Hero bets $9
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Old 02-26-2009, 05:09 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 1) i hate your flop raise. the only thing this does is maybe stack JJ if he's even 3-betting an ep raiser with that and stacking off to a flop raise.

2) i think betting the turn is good but i don't think i would pot it. bet like $7-8. his flop calling range is pretty wide and i think on the turn he will likely not call another bet without like a 9+ gut shot, or A9 maybe.
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Old 02-26-2009, 05:18 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 I agree with will. Call flop and re-eval turn in hand 1. bet/fold like $7ish on the turn in hand 2.
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Old 02-26-2009, 05:25 AM #4 (permalink)  

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1) i hate your flop raise. the only thing this does is maybe stack JJ if he's even 3-betting an ep raiser with that and stacking off to a flop raise.

2) i think betting the turn is good but i don't think i would pot it. bet like $7-8. his flop calling range is pretty wide and i think on the turn he will likely not call another bet without like a 9+ gut shot, or A9 maybe.
Yeah I agree the flop raise in hand #1 sucks.

As for hand two, I am putting him all in with the turn bet so I don't think the bet-sizing matters.
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Old 02-26-2009, 06:09 AM #5 (permalink)  
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On hand 2:
A draw and an overcard hit the turn. He's likely to fold a lot that we beat. Wouldn't it be better to let him push here?
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Old 02-26-2009, 03:14 PM #6 (permalink)  

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On the first hand I'd feel more comfortable calling it down. You have a great hand that you don't want running face first into rockets or cowboys. On the second hand maybe bet 2/3 of the pot, like around $6.
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