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Old 02-11-2009, 08:02 AM     Post subject: I play bad: 2 hands from 10NL #1 (permalink)  
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Hand 1:

Villain is 65/8. On the flop Im putting him on a weaker king or possibly 2pair. Neither the turn or river are impoving his hand...should I just be calling the river bet?

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Button ($6.50)
SB ($10.50)
BB ($12.40)
UTG ($15.90)
Hero (MP) ($10.55)
CO ($5.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, K
1 fold, Hero raises $0.40, 2 folds, SB calls $0.35, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.20) K, J, 9 (3 players)
SB bets $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($5.20) A (2 players)
SB bets $3, Hero calls $3

River: ($11.20) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero raises $5.15 (All-In), SB calls $3.10 (All-In)

Total pot: $21.40

Hand 2:
I suppose this should be a fold pre. Difficult to get away from this one given the pot odds

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SB ($29.45)
BB ($12.50)
Hero (UTG) ($10)
MP ($1.55)
Button ($12.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 10, K
Hero raises $0.40, MP calls $0.40, Button calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB raises $0.60, Hero calls $0.30, MP calls $0.30, Button calls $0.30

Flop: ($2.85) 10, 7, 2 (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $0.85 (All-In), Button raises $1.70, BB calls $1.70, Hero calls $1.70

Turn: ($8.80) 6 (4 players, 1 all-in)
BB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $3, BB calls $3, Hero calls $3

River: ($17.80) 3 (4 players, 1 all-in)
BB checks, Hero checks, Button checks

Total pot: $17.80
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:09 PM #2 (permalink)  

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Hand 1 - I raise on the flop and turn in this situation. If you put him on a weak king or two pair I think a raise will let you know where you stand. With two pair I think hed freak and shove...with a weak king he might just call or lay it down? IMO this hand was just played to soft to put this guy on a hand

Hand 2 - I like this flop in a raised pot. I CBet on the flop and see what develops...but I probably lay down after seeing MP shove and the button come over the top.
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Old 02-12-2009, 11:30 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: i think is ok but i raise the turn...

hand 2: i wouldnt play KT UTG and with such a heavy multi-way pot after so many calls im not happy with top pair decent kicker OOP on drawy flop. i think my line is bet out on the flop (2/3) then fold when ur raised then reraised.. or not bet at all
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Hand 1:

Raise the flop. Don't flat.
Raise the turn. Don't flat.
River, meh. He coulda got there with a backdoor with Kxs so I don't know if I like shipping it. Maybe just flat the river. Shouldn't be too hard for you since you seem to like to flat on flop and turn .

But in all seriousness, get your value on flop and turn, those are your money streets. You don't want to be shipping it on the river with two pair when the guy could have pretty much anything, and that includes things that beat you lol.

Hand 2:

I don't hate the call PF, like you said you had pretty good pot odds, but NEVER call the flop shove/reraise/cold call with just TPGK. With your hand you don't want to play it for top pair in a multi way pot. You should have been looking to flop straight/flush draws, two pair, etc.

Check/fold the flop.
Fold the turn.
River is fine .
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Old 02-13-2009, 03:23 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1: Wow that is some fucked up bet sizing by your villian. Notice how he bet less on the river 'scare card'. I'd definately raise this here, but IMO you probably should have shipped it on the turn. I don't really like raising the flop all that much because he overbet and we need to at least get worse hands putting money into us on later streets since if we come over the top on the flop he may actually fold a weaker pair. Do you have any aggression stats or reads on this guy?

Hand 2: After bet/raise/call your hand is no longer looking so nice so definately fold here. Of course after opening preflop with KT here you can't fold to that donks min raise with the muiltiway action. Just look to flop 2pair+ otherwise dump the hand. A pair with this hand multiway is almost never good, especially with all the action.
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