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bigspenda73
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07-28-2006, 03:44 AM
Post subject: I need to clear something up
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jul 2006
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So I am calculating odds on a draw, any draw and I need to know which is the right way to do it.
Is it good cards/total cards unseen
or
good cards/bad cards.
For example, is a gut shot
4/47 after the flop
or
4/43
Which one is it guys, and an explanation along with it would be nice.
Thanks
'spenda
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TLR
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Depends on the format of the data you discuss.
If you want to calculate % to hit your cards it is good/unseen. 4/47=8.5% to hit
If you want to express it is a ratio is good:bad
4:43 means - 4 times you will improve to each 43 that you dont.
Those are two different ways to say the same thing
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Whichever helps me to determine odds then pots odds I would like. Which one out of the two should I compare to the odds i am laying from the pot. Thanks
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TLR
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I find it easy to work with %.
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cobere
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Flush
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I prefer to work with ratios (odds). Gut shot draw is 4 good cards to 43 bad, so almost 11 to 1 against hitting it.
If the pot was $5 and your opp makes a weak bet of $0.50, you'd have pot odds to call it. Divide the $5.50 now in the pot by the $0.50 to call and you get 11.
I'm constantly doing this on the fly, dividing the pot by cost to call to come up with the pot odds. I think being able to do this, counting outs, and knowing your odds to hit are crucial skills to develop.
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KingLizard
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by cobere
I prefer to work with ratios (odds). Gut shot draw is 4 good cards to 43 bad, so almost 11 to 1 against hitting it.
If the pot was $5 and your opp makes a weak bet of $0.50, you'd have pot odds to call it. Divide the $5.50 now in the pot by the $0.50 to call and you get 11.
I'm constantly doing this on the fly, dividing the pot by cost to call to come up with the pot odds. I think being able to do this, counting outs, and knowing your odds to hit are crucial skills to develop.
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I, on the other hand, look at it as 4 outs x 2 = 8% + 1 = 9% ... and since the .50 call is 10% of the pot ... I make the call. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
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