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salsa4ever
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04-21-2006, 09:56 AM
Post subject: I know this is poker
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Full House
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Melbourne
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There is this absolute fish on my table 2 positions to my left. There's been like two pots that I've had to give away to this loose fish. I'm taking money from the rest of the table and I build up to 3x buyin... while this fish is redistributing my money to the rest of the table. Finally I get my hand: AQ 2 pair and i push it all in on the turn for him to call with a flush draw that hits on the river. Only a 100BB pot which is less than many others... but I don't think I was ever so annoyed. Thankfully I had to have dinner because I could easily have gone on tilt. Even though I was winning... any thoughts on how to stop this particularly irrational form of tilt?
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Originally Posted by bigred
Would you bone your cousins? Salsa would.
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Originally Posted by salsa4ever
well courtie, since we're both clear, would you accept an invitation for some unprotected sex?
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Marry Me Cheryl!!!
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know that next time you sit youll prob stack him in 5 mins
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Pelion
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Sep 2005
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If you have to sit out a hand or 2 after something like that then thats fine.
That kind of thing happened twice to me yesterday and my KK lost to AJ allin on a J high flop. I dont really get upset about it at 10NL because my BR is so big for these stakes. When I try 25NL and a couple of these happen in a row it shakes me up a little. Maybe you should try playing with a larger roll. I dont know how often you withdraw/move up in stakes but maybe you should try playing with a larger number of buyins. You might find these beats start to bother you less.
Or maybe you just have to take a short break afterwards. I really dont like sitting out after a bad beat because I know if I keep playing my game theres a fair chance he will give me my money back plus interest. However I feel myself getting pissed off and tilty I just take a break for a few minutes, or for the rest of the day. I really only find myself getting tilty when this happens right after Ive moved up in stakes or when I lose a buyin due to playing terribly. In general bad beats dont really do it for me anymore.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Warpe
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Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Canuckistan
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I had a hand a couple of days ago...87 in the hole, 878 flop, loose villain bets, I call, turn's a 9, villain bets, I call, river's a T, villain bets, I push, villain calls, turns over 8T for a higher boat. I reloaded and sat out for 3 or 4 hands, kicking myself for slowplaying and not pushing earlier, but then realized that the outcome would likely have been the same anyway 'cause villain's likely not folding trips and just shook it off.
Bad beat, outdrawn, whatever, there's always going to be hands that you just plain don't win. Accept that and you won't tilt.
What DID piss me off a little was that villain left the table a few hands later...But, we'll play again sometime and I'll get my stack back, and then some.
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jackvance
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04-21-2006, 04:29 PM
Post subject: Re: I know this is poker
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,910
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Originally Posted by salsa4ever
There is this absolute fish on my table 2 positions to my left. There's been like two pots that I've had to give away to this loose fish. I'm taking money from the rest of the table and I build up to 3x buyin... while this fish is redistributing my money to the rest of the table. Finally I get my hand: AQ 2 pair and i push it all in on the turn for him to call with a flush draw that hits on the river. Only a 100BB pot which is less than many others... but I don't think I was ever so annoyed. Thankfully I had to have dinner because I could easily have gone on tilt. Even though I was winning... any thoughts on how to stop this particularly irrational form of tilt? |
My god this story sounds so familiar it's uncanny lol. How many times I've had this happen the past two weeks, seriously.. if it happens again, there's already this voice in my head saying "yeah well, we've seen this before haven't we? And as always, just keep playing, it somehow always turns out fine in the long run, so it'll probably do so again now."
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What DID piss me off a little was that villain left the table a few hands later...But, we'll play again sometime and I'll get my stack back, and then some.
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I have to admit this one especially does get on my nerves still. It feels like they're saying: "haha sucker, I took your money, so long!" while they obviously couldn't play poker. But again, due to sheer repetition I'm building somewhat of a shield to this..
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Rondavu
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Don't be results oriented. Variance is among us.
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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KingLizard
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Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 296
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Originally Posted by Warpe
Bad beat, outdrawn, whatever, there's always going to be hands that you just plain don't win. Accept that and you won't tilt.
What DID piss me off a little was that villain left the table a few hands later...But, we'll play again sometime and I'll get my stack back, and then some.
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Agree wholeheartedly. However, when I get a beat like that, I do find that a break (short walk outside) helps me to "shake it off". I think that when I stay at the table, I focus TOO much on getting my money back and I want it back FROM THE PLAYER THAT TOOK IT. A break helps to "break" that thinking.
Like you say, I make my notes on the player and look for them the next time ensuring I am seated in the right position to get MY MONEY BACK. 
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Lukie
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: back with a vengeance
Posts: 3,307
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Once you are all-in, the only thing that matters is your equity.
308 games 0.047 secs 6,553 games/sec
Board: Ac 8h 3h Qs
Dead:
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 84.0909 % 84.09% 00.00% { AQo }
Hand 2: 15.9091 % 15.91% 00.00% { Jh5h }
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Seems like a good deal to me.
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Xanadu
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Full House
Join Date: May 2005
Location: st. paul, MO
Posts: 966
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If you are going to be able to play your best game all the time, you must be able to get over this kind of thing. Instead of focusing on the results, you must focus on how you made good decisions in the hand and got all your money on the table with the best of it. This is going to happen over and over again. You were killing the guy on the turn as Lukie's stats show. You will win 5 of every 6 times this happens. Rather than get upset, teach yourself to laugh and smile and think about how much better you played this hand and how badly your opponent played. You have to do this. Bad beats are part of poker, and the worse your opponents are (which is obviously a good thing), the more often it will happen to you. Put yourself in the right mindset, and if you can't be cool about these hands yet, make sure you stop playing until you are in the right frame of mind. Bad beats are no big deal ... they happen almost every time you sit down to play. But losing your stack in the 10 minutes after one because you tilted is a big deal and is the real issue here.
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