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mulhollanddrive
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07-14-2006, 06:06 PM
Post subject: hypothetical starting bankroll question
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Join Date: May 2006
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hi, i have a very general question.
what are the chances of a person who plays 10NL with a BR of $100 (post bonuses etc...) not going bust if they have just started?
I know its recommended that it be 15-30 buy-ins or even higher, but as a starting BR is it do-able?
thanks.
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Miffed22001
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not really, you need 200 at least
With 100 you may be able to play small stakes SNGs and build a bankroll.
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swiggidy
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Just started playing poker?
Try a Boss media site (see Easy's Bonus Whoring Guide). You can deposit $100 and clear a $100 bonus at 10NL at some of them (like this one).
wwwDOTcasinoclubDOTcom/poker/
That's how I started. I lost $20-30 before I cleared the first 250 raked hands ($25 bonus). Then I broke even for ~300 hands, then finished fairly strong (10bb/100). If you get out with $200 that should solve your BR issue.
If you follow the 19 hands thingy you should be fine.
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LimpinAintEZ
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i think its easier at 10NL - Yes, you should have an adequate bankroll, but 10 buy ins is enough for that low of level i think - a competent player should do just fine at 10nl with 10 buy ins...I wouldn't move up though until you have the recommended buy ins for 25nl - i learned that the hard way 
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let me clarify this a bit - with 10 buy ins at 25NL I have always found i'm not playing my best poker - I used to sit with $200 or so at 25NL and worry about calling all ins, or i'd buy in short etc...What I have found the buy in rules really help in me feeling comfortable playing the game - With $100 I am very comfortable playing 10NL - I make the right plays, i don't play scared, i don't start worrying about every little dime - I just play poker - So that is why i think if YOU are comfortable playing with 10 buy ins, you should be fine - when you have a shorter BR than what is recommended, you tend to play scared poker - That is why I now stick to the BR rules - With plenty of buy ins, I make the right moves instead of worrying about every little $$ out there....
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mulhollanddrive
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thanks for the feedback guys.
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Pelion
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id be perfectly happy with 10 buyins at 10NL now but im happy with my game.
I wouldnt recommend a beginner trying it with just 10 buyins. Take your $100 and play 2NL until you are happy. Thats easily enough to survive learning. After a couple of weeks you can probably move up to 10NL and be pretty comfortable.
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trev
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How about clearing some online blackjack bonuses to get a bigger roll?
Theres loads of sites you could do this on, but one that springs to mind is www.goldenpalace.com , this has a 300% up to $300 bonus if you deposit with neteller. Once this is cleared you're looking at at least $350 - so you could take your original $100 back and still have the 25 buy-ins.
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givememyleg
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$100 is plenty for 10nl.
However, if you're planning on clearing bonuses, it will be damn near impossible.
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Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by givememyleg
$100 is plenty for 10nl.
However, if you're planning on clearing bonuses, it will be damn near impossible.
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gulp
not for a n00b its not
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swiggidy
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by givememyleg
$100 is plenty for 10nl.
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gulp
not for a n00b its not |
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flomo
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07-15-2006, 04:11 AM
Post subject: Re: hypothetical starting bankroll question
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Originally Posted by mulhollanddrive
hi, i have a very general question.
what are the chances of a person who plays 10NL with a BR of $100 (post bonuses etc...) not going bust if they have just started?
I know its recommended that it be 15-30 buy-ins or even higher, but as a starting BR is it do-able?
thanks.
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i'd say you have a 50% chance of going bust with that br and limits for a beginner
if you are a tight, smart and disciplined player you might make it
i reccommend 2NL and 5NL tables to get your feet wet
also check out the bonus mentioned above(boss)
good luck
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trev (or anyone else), can you confirm the Golden Palace bonus is worth doing? 20 x deposit+bonus needs to be wagered - that's quite a lot, and I'd just like someone to do the maths for me before I take it on.
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trev
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Biondino I highly recommend Golden Palace, yes it's alot of money to wager but in terms of profit for your time it's well worth it. I played triple handed with 5 dollar bets per hand, it took I would guess around 5hrs of play to clear and I left with over $500 (obviously I must have got lucky along the way). There are other sites with easier to clear bonuses, but nowhere near 300%. If you can deposit with a credit/debit card 888.com is good, this has 100% up to $200 and you only need to bet 4k to clear it, you have to bet a higher amount if you use neteller tho.
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Lukie
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I could play NL10, starting with $100, and I'd say the chances that I eventually go bust on that roll are microscopic.
For a beginning player, it's likely they will lose that money.
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Probably be better off playing 2NL until you're comfortable playing, then play 5NL, etc. It kinda feels like you aren't getting anywhere, but it's a time investment that's well worth it.
I wonder what kind of guide could be written for a new player wanting to play NLHE cash games online with like a $100 starting bankroll, as far as getting PT through one of the free offers, where to play, easy bonuses, etc.
Maybe something for AOK to look into doing 
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mulhollanddrive
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Join Date: May 2006
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That'd be a great idea for a guide. I'd be more than happy making a contribution regarding this. I've checked out every bonus and room review on FTR, and tried out each one at least to see the interface... and have gone from $50 to $150 in a week... if i can keep it up i'll pop in my 2c worth.
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