HU two pair river value sizing?

**daven** · 05-03-2012 11:19 PM

villain is unknown so probably fish, just sat, 6 hands in
sizing for max value? like, he has JT type of hands most of the time here

$0.10/$0.25 Ante $0.05 No Limit Holdem
2 Players
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Stacks:
daven (SB) ($70.85)
BB ($24.77)

Pre-Flop: ($0.45, 2 players) daven is SB

daven raises to $0.62, BB calls $0.37

Flop:

($1.34, 2 players)
BB checks, daven bets $1.20, BB calls $1.20

Turn:

($3.74, 2 players)
BB checks, daven bets $3.50, BB calls $3.50

River:

($10.74, 2 players)
BB checks, daven bets $3.20,

**Imthenewfish** · 05-03-2012 11:28 PM

dislike, i don't really see why he has to mostly have JT hands here

**aka_red** · 05-04-2012 12:29 AM

wtf

**daven** · 05-04-2012 12:51 AM

i was curious as to what response this would elicit

Originally Posted by Imthenewfish

dislike, i don't really see why he has to mostly have JT hands here

sorry, what i mean by this is that his range is dominated by weak made hands that aren't calling much (including the weak made hand + draw hands) and air which is calling even less. But maybe i've got this all wrong. Or i have the ranges right, but haven't understood the impact of different sizing on his calling ranges correctly.

Originally Posted by aka_red

wtf

preferred sizing?

**Icanhastreebet** · 05-04-2012 12:52 AM

Bet bigger...especially since it's HU and so much shit bricked. No clue why villain can't have Kx Qx, c/ring this board with naked Kx is suicide in villains shoes.

edit: Even though you updated I'd still bet a little bigger for the reasons stated previously.

**daven** · 05-04-2012 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet

Bet bigger...especially since it's HU and so much shit bricked. No clue why villain can't have Kx Qx, c/ring this board with naked Kx is suicide in villains shoes.

edit: Even though you updated I'd still bet a little bigger for the reasons stated previously.

cool, cheers. Bigger seems smarter and his bluff-catchers just as likely to bluff-catch big as tiny?

Ingame i was torn between small (like $4ish) and nearer pot ($9ish). Doesn't really matter which i chose, i posted the hand with one of the sizes i was considering at the time.

**Icanhastreebet** · 05-04-2012 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by daven

cool, cheers. Bigger seems smarter and his bluff-catchers just as likely to bluff-catch big as tiny?

Ingame i was torn between small (like $4ish) and nearer pot ($9ish). Doesn't really matter which i chose, i posted the hand with one of the sizes i was considering at the time.

The big problem with going smaller here is that villains range isn't super weak. I mean if you bet 3$ and 9$ you only need 9$ to get paid off 1/3 of the time 3$ gets paid off. Do you think 9$ will? If yes then bet 9$.

05-03-2012 11:19 PM #1
daven View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message trolling freetrollers Join Date Aug 2007 Posts 7,097 Location soaking up ethanol, moving on up	HU two pair river value sizing? villain is unknown so probably fish, just sat, 6 hands in sizing for max value? like, he has JT type of hands most of the time here $0.10/$0.25 Ante $0.05 No Limit Holdem 2 Players Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com Stacks: daven (SB) ($70.85) BB ($24.77) Pre-Flop: ($0.45, 2 players) daven is SB daven raises to $0.62, BB calls $0.37 Flop: ($1.34, 2 players) BB checks, daven bets $1.20, BB calls $1.20 Turn: ($3.74, 2 players) BB checks, daven bets $3.50, BB calls $3.50 River: ($10.74, 2 players) BB checks, daven bets $3.20,
	don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit allin, reload, repeat please read: http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
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05-03-2012 11:28 PM #2
Imthenewfish View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Apr 2010 Posts 1,107	dislike, i don't really see why he has to mostly have JT hands here

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05-04-2012 12:29 AM #3
aka_red View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Nov 2004 Posts 1,384 Location house	wtf
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05-04-2012 12:51 AM #4
daven View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message trolling freetrollers Join Date Aug 2007 Posts 7,097 Location soaking up ethanol, moving on up	i was curious as to what response this would elicit Originally Posted by Imthenewfish dislike, i don't really see why he has to mostly have JT hands here sorry, what i mean by this is that his range is dominated by weak made hands that aren't calling much (including the weak made hand + draw hands) and air which is calling even less. But maybe i've got this all wrong. Or i have the ranges right, but haven't understood the impact of different sizing on his calling ranges correctly. Originally Posted by aka_red wtf preferred sizing?
	Last edited by daven; 05-04-2012 at 12:58 AM. don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit allin, reload, repeat please read: http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
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05-04-2012 12:52 AM #5
Icanhastreebet View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Dec 2009 Posts 1,410 Location IRC, Come join me!	Bet bigger...especially since it's HU and so much shit bricked. No clue why villain can't have Kx Qx, c/ring this board with naked Kx is suicide in villains shoes. edit: Even though you updated I'd still bet a little bigger for the reasons stated previously.

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05-04-2012 12:57 AM #6
daven View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message trolling freetrollers Join Date Aug 2007 Posts 7,097 Location soaking up ethanol, moving on up	Originally Posted by Icanhastreebet Bet bigger...especially since it's HU and so much shit bricked. No clue why villain can't have Kx Qx, c/ring this board with naked Kx is suicide in villains shoes. edit: Even though you updated I'd still bet a little bigger for the reasons stated previously. cool, cheers. Bigger seems smarter and his bluff-catchers just as likely to bluff-catch big as tiny? Ingame i was torn between small (like $4ish) and nearer pot ($9ish). Doesn't really matter which i chose, i posted the hand with one of the sizes i was considering at the time.
	don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit allin, reload, repeat please read: http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
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05-04-2012 12:59 AM #7
Icanhastreebet View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Dec 2009 Posts 1,410 Location IRC, Come join me!	Originally Posted by daven cool, cheers. Bigger seems smarter and his bluff-catchers just as likely to bluff-catch big as tiny? Ingame i was torn between small (like $4ish) and nearer pot ($9ish). Doesn't really matter which i chose, i posted the hand with one of the sizes i was considering at the time. The big problem with going smaller here is that villains range isn't super weak. I mean if you bet 3$ and 9$ you only need 9$ to get paid off 1/3 of the time 3$ gets paid off. Do you think 9$ will? If yes then bet 9$.

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