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01-09-2006, 10:01 PM
Post subject: how to play small pairs...
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Straight Flush
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in general, i want to ask how you all play your small pairs from early position...22-66.
the three strategies i can think of are: 1) limp only and set hunt, 2) call small raises up to 3x and set hunt, 3) RFI your normal 4-5x to blow out any junk, other small pairs, and get paid off on a hand no one can read.
at least those seem to be the ways i see them played and wondered what the consensus was...
please elaborate if you decide to answer and, as always, thanks a million.
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EricE
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#2 and #3 both have their merits. This subject has been discussed at extreme length. Do a search to find some answers.
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Lodogg
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Straight
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I limp in from early position and will call a raise if one of my opponent(s) stack are more than 8x the raise. and I don't ever raise with these hands in EP, because it is more of a drawing hand. I would raise from LP if I was first to the pot. You really want to get in as cheap as possible, hit a set, and break someone.
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Lukie
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by EricE
#2 and #3 both have their merits. This subject has been discussed at extreme length. Do a search to find some answers.
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I don't think this subject or KK v possible AA scenarios have ever come up on FTR...
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Staple Gun
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yea, but it is a very important thing to discuss.
I'd link you to some older discussions of it but i'm to lazy. sorry 
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Lodogg
I limp in from early position
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What else are you limping? I would limp too, but if half the table has a clue then Shania gets very upset.
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Irisheyes
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Shania gets very upset.
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I think someone spends too much time on foreign message boards! 
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Silly String
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Originally Posted by Staple Gun
I'd link you to some older discussions of it but i'm to lazy. sorry |
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=83
There you go.
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r8ed
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by Lodogg
I limp in from early position
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What else are you limping? I would limp too, but if half the table has a clue then Shania gets very upset. |
Not that I don't do this, but if I see some tight player limp EP and then call my raise, I'm very wary of a set hunter and play the rest of the hand with that in mind.
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natdang
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Flush
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Implied odds if you set here are potentially huge - I'm calling anything less than 8xBB pf.
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DrDrei
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Interesting discussion. I tend to limp these in early position too, and call a raise, but I could easily see how this would be a glaring tell to anyone with a clue, since I don't really limp any other hands from early position -- or when I do, it's with the intention of reraising a raise, or folding to a raise, not calling.
I think if you start doing this with AA-JJ from early position too and trapping when you're raised, that would vary it up some. Either that, or we need to start raising them, but I don't feel like that's the ideal play -- when set hunting, you want multiple opponents in the pot to pay you off.
Maybe a mixture of half raises, half limps from early position with any pocket pair? With half reraises, half calls for JJ-AA if someone raises you?
I can't really think of anything else worth limping in early position and calling a reraise with...
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Lodogg
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Straight
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You make a lot of good points about mixing it up in EP, but I think that at the lower stakes the opponents aren't thinking about this. For lower limits I don't think mixing it up is necessary.
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