Originally Posted by optimists

Turn: ($1.16) 4d (2 players)
Hero checks, Villain bets $0.30 (All-in)
Hero ???

Originally Posted by daviddem

At 2NL, against one opponent, and especially if I am OOP, I 3bet JJ most of the time. The hand is notorious to play badly after the flop, so I if I take it preflop, I am happy enough.

However, against two villains, at 2NL, there is very little chance that they will both fold. Squeezing at 2NL does not work because most people do not understand the show of force. Then you find yourself OOP in a super-bloated pot. Another argument against is that at 2NL, reraising often results in a raising war until everyone is all-in. This would most likely force you to lay down JJ and it has more chance of happening against two opponents than heads-up.

In the case above, this is mitigated by the fact that the raiser and caller are in the CO and button, so their range (if they understand position) are wider and your squeeze has some more chance of success. The CO bet sizing preflop indicates that he at least has a clue, but he is probably not on a steal since he raises two limpers in the CO. However, note also that both the CO and button are short stacks, so reraising would pretty much leave them only with the options of folding or going all-in. Calling would not make much sense. This means that most of the time, they will lay down worse hands and shove with better hands.

So I don't think it is stupid to call in this spot and play JJ for overpair/set value.

As played, on the flop, I am tempted to check/raise, but the risk of giving a free card is high. The flop misses most of villains ranges and we have no reads that CO cbets a lot, so donking is good. Pot size is good in theory. With such a board, you have good chances of being called by worse hands and a pot sized bet is the right price to prevent the strongest draws to call profitably. But notice again that facing a pot sized bet, normal opponents are left with little choice but folding or shoving over due to their stack sizes, so maybe in this case I would only bet 3/4 pot so that calling becomes a slightly more sensible option to them.

Finally, as played, obviously, call the turn based on pot odds.

Originally Posted by optimists

First hand of the villaion, thus no reads on him.

Fulltilt $2NL. 9-max
UTG ($1.66)
UTG+1 ($2.02)
MP1 ($2.41)
MP2 ($1.02)
MP3 ($0.89)
Villain (CO) ($0.80)
Button ($0.81)
SB ($0.54)
Hero BB ($2.57)

Preflop: Hero is BB with JdJh, Villain is CO posted 0.02.

1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.02, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.11, Button calls $0.11, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.11, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.38) 2d, 5h, 6h (3 players)
Hero bets $0.39, Villain calls $0.39, 1 fold

Turn: ($1.16) 4d (2 players)
Hero checks, Villain bets $0.30 (All-in)
Hero ???

Also, comment on how I played this hand. Wasn't bet on the flop excessive? I wanted to eliminate any drawers.

Originally Posted by jaytoi

Lol, good analogy mason, i'll remember that.