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Anosmic

04-14-2006, 07:48 AM Post subject: How much would they have paid?

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I think I should have raised a bit more here. What do you think?
(BTW, I planned to C/R the river, and then they BOTH check...)

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UTG+1 ($17.97)
MP1 ($4.92)
MP2 ($17.93)
MP3 ($3.77)
CO ($10.64)
Button ($4.88)
SB ($4.94)
Hero ($9.92)
UTG ($13.73)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

, A

. SB posts a blind of $0.02.
UTG calls $0.04, UTG+1 raises to $0.08, 4 folds, Button raises to $0.2, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.16, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.12.

I think, why re-raise the pot here? It's a fair size, it's limited the number of players. Why let them get away?

Flop: ($0.66) 2

, T

, 8

(3 players)
Hero bets $0.4, UTG+1 raises to $0.8, Button calls $0.80, Hero calls $0.40.

This smells like over-pairs. So why not let them bet and get all I can from them?

Turn: ($3.06) T

(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $0.87, Button calls $0.87, Hero calls $0.87.

The bets a bit low. Should I step in? But if this bet is designed to test the waters then any raise will make them fold.

River: ($5.67) 9

(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: $5.67

Results in white below:
Hero has As Ah (two pair, aces and tens).
UTG+1 has Qd Qc (two pair, queens and tens).
Button has Qh Qs (two pair, queens and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $5.67.

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Doublethe7

04-14-2006, 09:03 AM

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Preflop:
The Button reraise pf looks very much like a higher pocket pair, so if you reraised him to about 1$ and he has only a little bit of aggression in his play he'll put you allin which is what you want. There are also two people in the hand - you want to get heads up with your rockets, remember its still only one pair.

Flop:
You bet and got a raise and a call, so both of them like their hands, if you put them on overs you should reraise allin - i'm sure at this level at least one of them will call you with holdings like JJ, QQ, KK, maybe AT, or AKspades (dont be suprised to see a set of tens or eights in such situations)

Turn:
That bet looks a bit weak, could be a slowplayed full if utg+1 is some kind of trappy. I like the check/call line.
But the thougts about "testing the waters" are wrong. If he only wants to test the waters, you wont get money on the river anyway, unless he has a hand that beats you.

River:
I would consider making a valuebet of about $2.50, and fold to an allin-reraise from utg+1.

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jackvance

04-14-2006, 01:27 PM Post subject: Re: How much would they have paid?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anosmic

I think, why re-raise the pot here? It's a fair size, it's limited the number of players. Why let them get away?

Ah this is the kind of moment I play for.. When I hold AA, and people start raising and reraising preflop

. I don't know about the first guy, but the second guy will definately call or maybe even reraise you if you cranck it up a notch.

And it might very well end up in a 3-way all-in. And just about the very best 3-way all-in imaginable too.. your AA vs QQ vs QQ. Lol, both of your opponent COMBINED have less than 4% to beat you

chardrian

04-14-2006, 04:06 PM Post subject: Re: How much would they have paid?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anosmic

Flop: ($0.66) 2

, T

, 8

(3 players)
Hero bets $0.4, UTG+1 raises to $0.8, Button calls $0.80, Hero calls $0.40.

This smells like over-pairs. So why not let them bet and get all I can from them?

Here's what I really don't like about your play. If you really put your opps on overpairs here - let them have it - push!! How many guys are folding an overpair here?? plus you are extremely vulnerable to a flush or stright draw if your read is wrong and by calling all you are doing is giving good odds for them to hit.

I don't play much NL, but I push here.

Rabid Dog

04-14-2006, 05:26 PM

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I would think since you have 2 opponents willing to raise PF that you should go at them now, their more than willing to put their money in PF. Get as much out of them as you can PF even if they fold (which I doubt they would have in this situation). There's no sense in giving them an easy chance of cracking your aces. Slow play can build a big pot, but it can also kill your Aces post flop. At least make it hurt some PF to see more cards.

DaHorror

04-14-2006, 06:58 PM

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The biggest problem with trying to get 'fancy' here is that there are too many scare cards that could come on the turn and slow down your action or even kill your hand.

Flush draw completes, A or K shows up, board pairs, particularly with top pair.

Besides, at this level, you could probably just open push the flop and probably have both of them call.

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