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ArcadianRock
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05-01-2009, 09:29 PM
Post subject: How much is too much for set?
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How much can one pay for to hit a set preflop?
It seems if you limp behind with 66 and someone raises it too much that you have to fold it, obviously if 4 others call it gives you good odds but I'm not too sure.
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HarleyGuy13
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The best rule of thumb is you need 15:1. So what ever it cost you to call the effective stacks needs to be 15x's what it cost you to call. Then if you hit of course you need to plan to get it all in so pot sized bets or as close as possible.
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surviva316
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yeah, 1/15 is a good rule of thumb, but be much less likely to do it OOP especially against very loose players who raise preflop often because they're gonna be ok with folding their hand if it doesn't hit. e.g. if you have 22 on the blind and the button has a PFR of 30 and he raises, it's probably not even worth it (unless you feel that others will call along).
seems like a cop out to say it depends but it really does. if you're in position w 100bb's and a deep stacked player raises 6bb's UTG, then the 1/15 rule works well. all i'm saying is don't have the rule be a substitute for thinking about how much you stand to make from a hand
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jyms
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player stats, other players at the table left to act and most importantly, Stack sizes all need to be considered when playing for set odds. The pot size means nothing.
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d0zer
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Originally Posted by jyms
player stats, other players at the table left to act and most importantly, Stack sizes all need to be considered when playing for set odds. The pot size means nothing.
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I wouldn't say the pot size means NOTHING. a larger pot sets up a lower SPR which makes it easier to stack someone => better implied odds.
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bigspenda73
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jyms
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Originally Posted by d0zer
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Originally Posted by jyms
player stats, other players at the table left to act and most importantly, Stack sizes all need to be considered when playing for set odds. The pot size means nothing.
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I wouldn't say the pot size means NOTHING. a larger pot sets up a lower SPR which makes it easier to stack someone => better implied odds. |
Uhm, SPR needs to be alot higher tcall for sets, not lower. Lower SPR is for Broadway type hands JJ+ AJ+ KJ+. I hope your not calling 3bets looking to get a set and stack someone.
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