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IowaSkinsFan
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08-01-2006, 09:28 PM
Post subject: How much does a good player Continuation bet?
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I know this is a vague question that may not have a straight answer but if someone could give me a percentage that would be great.
I'm thinking it's like 75% to 85%
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DaNutsInYoEye
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Are you asking about frequncy or amount?
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pgil
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its not a % of the time, its a picking your spots thing. the flop texture and the opp(s) are the main factors here. you cant just have a blanket statement saying that "good players cbet x% of the time", it just wont work.
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Most good players will cbet about 85% of the time. Most good plaers will roll a dice and if they roll a 6 then they won't cbet that time. Works like a charm.
No seriously, it depends on a lot of things, board texture and number of opponents being the most imortant along with position.
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more times than not
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I try to avoid postflop play whenever possible.
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Originally Posted by givememyleg
I try to avoid postflop play whenever possible.
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what's a flop?
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Originally Posted by givememyleg
I try to avoid postflop play whenever possible.
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what's a flop? |
Your attempts at humor.
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Fnord
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How often are they folding?
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lol i'm a smart guy. I know whether to c-bet is completely read dependant, flop texture, and number of opponents. I was hoping someone would throw out a number that would end up being the average over 100,000 hands from a good player, average out all situations.
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In an attempt to avoid the standard "it depends", I would say that if I raise in EP/MP and there are 3 or more players who stay in, I usually won't C-bet, unless I hit or get a juicy draw. If there are 2 players, with 1 or more tighties, I will usually bet pot to get a better read.
If I'm in LP, I think I c-bet more often, and quite often I will raise a bet in front of me if I hit top pair or pick up a draw.
C-bets should be about both reads and value, but more of one or the other depending on the situation.
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80/20
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One more consideration is how tight you are pre-flop. If you are tight, your c-bets will be believed more. If you are a loose goose, you're not gonna take as many down on the flop, so you need to watch it OOP.
Also, if you ALMOST ALWAYS c-bet, you might only get called when you are beaten are when opponents have big draws. So, to combat this, I often look for times to check raise TPGK, just to show people I don't always bet out with a hand. This way, your c-bets are balanced with c/r's, which keeps people from messing with you.
Finally, mix up your c-bet amounts from 60% to 110% of the pot. This disguises the times you want to bet out with draws.
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
lol i'm a smart guy. I know whether to c-bet is completely read dependant, flop texture, and number of opponents. I was hoping someone would throw out a number that would end up being the average over 100,000 hands from a good player, average out all situations.
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Even if your percentage matches up to their percentage, what does that tell you? If they play a different style than you, you could very well be cbetting at a suboptimal [not in the literal game theory sense] frequency and not know it. You could also be cbetting in completely different situations but have it average out about the same.
Post like 10 hands and ask "which ones would you bet and how much?" and then compare that to what you did.
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It really needs to depend on your opponent.
If you're getting too much action, c-bet less and beat them upside the head when you hit. Pre-flop focus on building up pots just enough so you can stick it in when you want to.
If they're trying to hit something, take it down when they don't get there. Pre-flop focus on getting in lots of money.
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Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by givememyleg
I try to avoid postflop play whenever possible.
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what's a flop? |
Your attempts at humor. |
oh no you di'int
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