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kingme620
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01-09-2008, 09:30 AM
Post subject: How is this graph?
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3-of-a-Kind
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I realize this is just micro, but I wanted to get some input on this. With that large number of hands, are my winnings too low?
Also, what is a good BR at this rate for me to go to the next stake? I was waiting for $100, but can my BR handle it if I started right now?
By the way, its interesting to note how at about the 2000th hand my winnings dramatically increased when I asked a question about VPIP on flopturn and got an answer that reallllly helped my game.
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elitemob
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Hi, well it looks as if you made a good solid profit over a longer period of time. I suppose the next stake is 0.10$ BB ? 100$ would be a good bankroll to get you started (100xBB max-buy-in = 10$ for a 0.10$ BB table and you need to be able to support at least 10 all-ins, so a 100$ bankroll would be good)
I would definitely recommend that you grind patiently, because patience and discipline are two of the most important skills of every poker player, as is bankroll management. So just learn to be patient and disciplined. Don't put yourself under too much pressure. There is no rush, is there?
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bode
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Originally Posted by elitemob
Hi, well it looks as if you made a good solid profit over a longer period of time. I suppose the next stake is 0.10$ BB ? 100$ would be a good bankroll to get you started (100xBB max-buy-in = 10$ for a 0.10$ BB table and you need to be able to support at least 10 all-ins, so a 100$ bankroll would be good)
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pleas disreguard this. You need atleast 20x the buyin for whatever level you are playing. For now, stick w/ $5nl. When your BR reaches $200 then move up to $10nl.
nice graph btw
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10 buyins is a bit small. Your graph is encouraging, low variance, and indicates you're probably a winning player, but it's a small sample size so we need to be a bit careful.
I would advise you grind a little more, to $100, then move to $5nl rather than $10nl (i.e. the big blind is $0.05). You'll have twenty 100bb buyins, which is fine, and you'll probably have played a good 5,000 hands more which will certainly make a difference to your nascent game.
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elitemob
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OK, I stand corrected. Sorry about the misinformation. I just read that on another pokerstrategy site and followed it since (and fared well). I suppose everyone has a different opinion on how much you should have in your back when moving up in stakes.
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will641
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Originally Posted by elitemob
Hi, well it looks as if you made a good solid profit over a longer period of time. I suppose the next stake is 0.10$ BB ? 100$ would be a good bankroll to get you started (100xBB max-buy-in = 10$ for a 0.10$ BB table and you need to be able to support at least 10 all-ins, so a 100$ bankroll would be good)
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pleas disreguard this. You need atleast 20x the buyin for whatever level you are playing. For now, stick w/ $5nl. When your BR reaches $200 then move up to $10nl.
nice graph btw
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hehe, yeah what elitemob said is just horribly wrong. and also, your win rate is pretty low, but this is a really small sample size. in 6500 hands ive run as good as 20bb/100 hands and as low as -10bb/100 hands
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dont forget there is nothing wrong with "taking a shot" at a higher level, either.
take one or two BI's, designate them for "experimentation," and try 10NL. if you lose them, you can certainly replace them at your previous level.
generally, yes, 20 BI's is the norm. but, i, and many others, have moved up before we were ready (monetarily). if you have a tighter style, are posting a winning game, and have a lower-variance style, you may do well.
you'll never know until you try. just dont be afraid to move back down if your AA gets cracked on the first hand. replace the BI and take another shot in a week or two.
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
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kingme620
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I would advise you grind a little more, to $100, then move to $5nl rather than $10nl (i.e. the big blind is $0.05). You'll have twenty 100bb buyins, which is fine, and you'll probably have played a good 5,000 hands more which will certainly make a difference to your nascent game.
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Yeah..i should of clarified: I wasnt even considering moving up to 10nl yet, just 5nl. I'll wait until i break the $100 mark and then move up to 5nl. Thanks for the advice.
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10 buyins is a bit small. Your graph is encouraging, low variance, and indicates you're probably a winning player, but it's a small sample size so we need to be a bit careful.
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What would you consider to be a large sample size?
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hehe, yeah what elitemob said is just horribly wrong. and also, your win rate is pretty low, but this is a really small sample size. in 6500 hands ive run as good as 20bb/100 hands and as low as -10bb/100 hands
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I've been trying to find how to how to calculate my win rate. I'm pretty sure i use my hourly rate (1.19) and...do...something? Are the rates completely dependent on what level your at? ie the difference between 100nl and 5nl will be huge?
Completely unrelated, but I find it hard to stay at a table after winning a medium to large pot, even though I'm still not chip leader at the table. ($3 buy in, increase stack to $4.5-$8, with other stacks at the table as high as $10) . I usually leave before the BB gets to me again if I don't get any playable cards. Is this a good/profitable thing to do, or should I stay and use my stack to possibly get the large stacks?
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