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07-06-2008, 06:03 PM
Post subject: How to get action on tight table with AA?
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3-of-a-Kind
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Just had the most frustrating session. Playing 5NL on party got dealt AA four times and KK once. Only thing was, just could not get any action, made a standard raise each time and all the opponents folded.
In a situation like this where most of the players are playing weak tight, and its quite likely you wont get action, is it ever worth slow playing these cards preflop?
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Playing at an extremely tight table is like chasing your tail. You'll find more often than not that after 100 hands, everyone has close to the same chip count 'cuz all they've done is trade blinds and a few small pots back and forth.
Next time find another table ASAP, or... play extremely loose. It's up to you.
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celtic123
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....keeping your AA in your pockets.
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Ash256
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It's sometimes worth slowplaying these hands preflop, but definitely not at 5NL and definitely not out of frustration.
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4-of-a-Kind
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Find a new table. If you are playing a solid TAGG style your main goal is to find a table with alot of Laggy players. Because those are the players that will pay your big hands off. If you are playing Laggy, then you want a tight table as you can run them over with your betting/raising and run when they fight back.
Start looking at the "Players to the flop" percentage next to the tables in the lobby. That is a decent reference to how loose/tight the majority of the table is.
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JKDS
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i look at average pot size. ones where the average is half the max buy in are gold.
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But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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Fnord
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Open more hands and accept that you're going to tend to get action when someone else has a hand.
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bjsaust
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Straight Flush
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If everyones folding whenever you raise, take a guess what the right plan is?
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Just playing to improve.
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Biglines
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3-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by bjsaust
If everyones folding whenever you raise, take a guess what the right plan is?
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I was playing pretty loose but still failed to get action. Generally though, the tables just seem way tighter on Sundays than during the rest of the week.
After playing a few more sessions, I think I got dealt AA something like 6 times yesterday and failed to make any real money.
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bjsaust
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Straight Flush
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If you're getting no action, you should be stealing shitloads of pots from the nits to help make up for not being paid off.
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Just playing to improve.
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Biglines
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3-of-a-Kind
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Yep, thats true. When the BB is 0.04 and the nits are only limping in this doesnt add up to very much.
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If you're going to stay at a table like this, it's mandatory to start getting value out of your mediocre hands in late position as well as the blinds. I don't mind playing in really tight cash games because I'd rather be a LAGG in cash games anyhow. It's so much easier to put players on hands and duck out on the flop in a nitty cash game. Sometimes, people may view you as a maniac, even though you're really not. It's just that the table is so nitty it appears that way.
Getting back to your Aces not getting any action, well shit happens. I've lost count of how many times I've only picked up the blinds with AA or KK. It's sick, but what are you going to do. Next time you get AA in a tight game in EP, try limping. TJ Cloutier wrote, "you can never go broke with Aces when you limp in" and this statement holds so much more water in a nitty game because you know players aren't going to raise or call with suited/connected trash. Try it, you'll either lose a small pot or win a big one but either way it will drive your nitty opponents nuts.
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Robb
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Mezza Morta
Next time you get AA in a tight game in EP, try limping. TJ Cloutier wrote, "you can never go broke with Aces when you limp in" and this statement holds so much more water in a nitty game because you know players aren't going to raise or call with suited/connected trash. Try it, you'll either lose a small pot or win a big one but either way it will drive your nitty opponents nuts.
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In my opinion, no.
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Originally Posted by Ash256
It's sometimes worth slowplaying these hands preflop, but definitely not at 5NL and definitely not out of frustration.
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In my opinion, yes.
Limping AA is NOT recommended at the micros. You will get them cracked like 142% of the time, then you'll tilt, then you'll spew, then you'll lose 7 BI and hate yourself and slit your wrist and hurl, and that'll suck. So just fire an opening raise and hope for someone to have a hand to play back with.
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littleogre
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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1 bluff more
2 Always assume they have a hand if they resteal.
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asdpikas
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At the micros, dont sloplay AA. Better to win just the blinds than to lose your whole stack cause u didn't raise and couldnt let go of the hand.
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"could I take out every woman and child in a border town?"
For the right to be governed, waste them without mercy.
When you've decided. Meet me at the airport.
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Outlaw
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Tight 5NL tables? Are you kidding? I never saw such a thing.
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Biglines
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: May 2008
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go play at Party on a Sunday, couldnt believe it myself.
Pretty funny, after my last post I lost 3 buyins with AA getting sucked out on 3 times.
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mrhappy333
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IMO, raise more hands
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oskar
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Yup, that's the best way to get them to open up.
If you have raised every single hand for 2 rounds and you still pick up the blinds from UTG open another table and keep this one just to play crap for set, straight and flush value. If one of those guys suddenly raises 8BB, and both of you are deep enough I'd call him with a very wide range and hope to outflop him. He's not going to fold a hand he waited 20 rounds for just because the flop is 5s6s7s.
Probably not.
I often wonder what these guys look like. How can you possibly have fun playing über-tight online?
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